About the stem cells...

minnietguinea · Post by **minnietguinea** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 7:07 pm

What's everyone think? There's apparently a lot of pressure to lift the restrictions, as Korea has had a breakthrough in the field. The House has passed, and a surprising number of Senators are pushing for it. But still, even after 60% of polled citizens said they'd support it, the president is still claiming he'd veto the bill. Are stem cells a possible defence against cancer, alzheimer's, etc., or the murder of human babies? You decide. Like Shadow the Hedgehog. Or something.

Post by **Delphine** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 7:11 pm

DON'T KILL THE BABIES THAT WEREN'T GOING TO BE BORN IN THE FIRST PLACE.

Alternate answer:

Every sperm is sacred.

Omni Hunter · Post by **Omni Hunter** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 7:19 pm

I listened to that the other day.
Anyway are we talking about babies or foetus?

minnietguinea · Post by **minnietguinea** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 7:39 pm

I guess embrios, or however you spell that. Not actually babies.

Kishi · Post by **Kishi** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 7:49 pm

I'm all about it.

Locit · Post by **Locit** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 8:05 pm

I've donated several myself.

Post by **Squirrelknight** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 8:26 pm

Has the GHZ Forum officially run out of things to talk about?

Err, anyway, I got nothing against stem cell research. They get my official seal of approval.

Ancient · Post by **Ancient** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 8:43 pm

Basically it's 'pro-choice' vs 'abortion is murder' isn't it?

I don't know much about it, but that's the impression I got.

Protodude · Post by **Protodude** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 8:48 pm

Although I don't know a lot about it, I'd say how could you be against it?

Post by **Delphine** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 9:06 pm

Protodude wrote:Although I don't know a lot about it, I'd say how could you be against it?

ONLY SATANISTS AND BABY KILLERS SUPPORT STEM CELL RESEARCH.

DarkPrime · Post by **DarkPrime** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 9:11 pm

Well, you can extract stem cells from afterbirth.

I'm Catholic and I'm for it. Anything that can help cure AIDS or Cancer, I'm for. I don't support "growing" test tube babies to harvest stem cells, or abortion just to extract stem cells, though.

minnietguinea · Post by **minnietguinea** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 9:12 pm

Abortion is different, I guess. They're talking about cultivating an embryo in a pitri dish, and using its stem cells. Not taking fetuses (feti?) from a mothers tummy. Or the stork. Whatever you believe.

Post by **Delphine** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 9:15 pm

DarkPrime wrote:abortion just to extract stem cells, though.

What if the abortion is going to happen anyway?

DarkPrime · Post by **DarkPrime** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 9:17 pm

Delphine wrote:
DarkPrime wrote:abortion just to extract stem cells, though.
What if the abortion is going to happen anyway?

Then I guess it's like donating your body to science.

Not that I'm for abortion as "a means of birth control" or anything, but if it does happen, you might as well try and help someone else's life.

Post by **Delphine** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 9:21 pm

See, why can't everyone say things like that? Then we wouldn't have this "controversy" thing.

Ash Holt · Post by **Ash Holt** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 9:22 pm

I'm for it, anyone who values the well-being of lifeless conglomerates of cells over actual human life is insane.

This is the extent of my opinion and all I will say on the matter, into the sunset I ride!

I edited this shit twice!

DarkPrime · Post by **DarkPrime** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 9:23 pm

I'm just realistic about it. There are people who think different than me, and that's cool. Everyone has their own opinions and beliefs. I don't have to agree with it, but I can choose to not participate in it or support it.

Post by **Delphine** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 9:24 pm

You better watch it DarkPrime, I'm starting to like you.

DarkPrime · Post by **DarkPrime** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 9:32 pm

Don't worry, I'll screw up and say something stupid soon enough.

Post by **Esrever** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 9:34 pm

Oh my god! Don't you realize that the human soul is created at conception? I mean, how would you like it if I murdered your Grandma? Because murdering a few cells in a dish is exactly totally the same thing. It's ever bit as bad as shooting a baby, or doing a man up the ass.

Think about it!

Post by **Delphine** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 10:08 pm

Only the Sith deal in absolutes.

Post by **Squirrelknight** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 10:42 pm

Delphine wrote:Only the Sith deal in absolutes.

Stem cell research could've saved Padme.

...NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!

Ancient · Post by **Ancient** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:22 pm

People who are against abortions don't like the idea of using 'abortions that would happen anyway' for stem cells because they feel they are accepting the abortion.

Killing someone to give someone else a chance of living doesn't add up.

I'm not saying this is my point of view, just that I see where they're coming from.

Post by **Esrever** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:29 pm

Delphine wrote:Only the Sith deal in absolutes.

Jesus was a Sith!

Post by **Delphine** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:36 pm

Abortions are bad. I'd much rather have someone who didn't want a child / wasn't prepared for a child to raise the little rascal, be poor, treat the kid like dirt, and spend the rest of their life regretting it. Much healthier!

Jesus was a myth. OH I WENT THERE.