Why Uwe Boll deserves to die, or at least suffer great pain.

Grant · Post by **Grant** » Thu Jan 20, 2005 10:38 pm

Ngangbius wrote:
Segaholic2 wrote:Jack wasn't over-the-top enough in my opinion.

Jim owns all.
While I don't agree that Carrey overall owns Nicholson, I have to agree that Carrey would have made a better Joker than Nicholson. His over-the-top acting would have fit the Joker's personality.

Personally, I don't think either actor did or would do the character justice, although I think Nicholson's interpretation was much better than anything Carrey would offer. Mainly because the Joker isn't supposed to be funny, he's supposed to be creepy. I can't say I much care for the "bad pun" version of the Joker; I much prefer the creepy homocidal maniac version that's called "the Joker" only because of his unsettling and ever-present grin, not because of his penchant for awful jokes.

Zeta · Post by **Zeta** » Thu Jan 20, 2005 10:46 pm

Mainly because the Joker isn't supposed to be funny, he's supposed to be creepy. I can't say I much care for the "bad pun" version of the Joker; I much prefer the creepy homocidal maniac version that's called "the Joker" only because of his unsettling and ever-present grin, not because of his penchant for awful jokes.

At the height of it's quality - the animated series Joker can be both of those things simultaneously. A sick and twisted homocidal maniac who actually packs a bunch of great one-liners. You're afraid of him because he's going to rot away your flesh in acid - but at the same time, he'll say something really hilarious while he's doing it. So you have to at least give him props for that - the mind numbing terror and pain aside.

Jim Carrey is also one of the two best choices as Lupin in the proposed live-action Lupin the III movie. The other choice being Bruce Campbell.

But who do you get to play Zenigata? The two have to constantly be topping eachother.

Unless you wanted to get Carrey to play Zenigata AND Lupin.

Or get Robin Williams to play old man Zenigata.

Man, I'd hate to be on that set. Two giant hams fighting for the camera. But that's really the dynamic between the two characters as well.

Post by **Delphine** » Thu Jan 20, 2005 11:04 pm

Ngangbius wrote:And about Uwe Boll...god...I really hope to god that he doesn't get his hands on movie rights to the more popular franchises like Silent Hill or Metal Gear Solid. I'm amazed Ben Kingsley agreed to do the steaming pile known as Bloodrayne.

There's a SH movie in the works, and Boll is nowhere near it, thank god.

Grant · Post by **Grant** » Thu Jan 20, 2005 11:04 pm

Zeta wrote:At the height of it's quality - the animated series Joker can be both of those things simultaneously. A sick and twisted homocidal maniac who actually packs a bunch of great one-liners. You're afraid of him because he's going to rot away your flesh in acid - but at the same time, he'll say something really hilarious while he's doing it. So you have to at least give him props for that - the mind numbing terror and pain aside.

Yeah, that was one of the greatest things about B:TAS, how it was able to incorporate all of these different versions of characters into one.

Still, I prefer the Joker not making any jokes at all, but that's just me.

Zeta · Post by **Zeta** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 1:33 am

Still, I prefer the Joker not making any jokes at all, but that's just me

I like it because it makes for a nice parallel.

We have Batman - a psychopathic, paranoid, nearly emotionless good guy who wouldn't know humor or most other human feelings if they tried to bite him on the ass (they wouldn't actually get close enough to do the biting). A man who's expressions generally are less dynamic than a sack full of bricks.

Then we have the Joker - a psychopathic, biploar, emotion-filled bad guy who loves humor, jokes, and elaborate black comedy and generally despises anyone who takes themselves, the world, or death too seriously. Especially Batman!

Thus, we have an interesting dichotomy. A cold-hearted hero who surpresses positive emotions and a gore-loving villain who revels in them.

Post by **Segaholic2** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 12:03 pm

I agree. He's the Joker, for crap's sake.

SuperKnux · Post by **SuperKnux** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 12:10 pm

That Uwe Boll is really starting to scare the shit out of me. I can't believe the movie industry green lights the stupid shit he's doing, and it's freaking me out because he might start to touch on video games that are actually decent.

Post by **Segaholic2** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 1:34 pm

Alone in the Dark is a classic series that pretty much created the survival horror genre that eventually spawned Resident Evil and Silent Hill. So he's already bad enough.

Ngangbius · Post by **Ngangbius** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 2:01 pm

Hollywood green lights a lot of stupid stuff. That's why we are seeing commercials for Son of the Mask.

And is Uwe Boll trying to be the next Ed Wood? Has he ever directed anything original instead of video-game based movies?

Double-S- · Post by **Double-S-** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 2:32 pm

House of the Dead was also classic in its own sense. And Uwe Boll raped it to death also.

At least those next three games are crappy.

What I can't believe is that he actually thinks he's doing these games justice (or else why would he keep making them). Or maybe he thinks he'll eventually manage to get it right after enough trial and error... mostly complete and utter error.

Post by **Esrever** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 3:45 pm

The man thinks he is doing us all a favour, fighting to make these terrible movies. If you scroll down a bit here, there is an interview with him:

http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=18818

Double-S- · Post by **Double-S-** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 4:01 pm

Wow, the guy's personality/ego is as bad as his movie-making skills.

Light Speed · Post by **Light Speed** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 4:20 pm

How the fuck do you pronounce Uwe Boll anyway?

Double-S- · Post by **Double-S-** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 4:36 pm

I've been saying Wee Bowl.

j-man · Post by **j-man** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 6:17 pm

I'd say you ball. Which sounds kinda like an on-the-fly insult.

Baba O'Reily · Post by **Baba O'Reily** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 9:43 pm

http://img106.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img106& ... uys3sj.jpg
And I pronounce it 'Oo-Way Bowl'.

Brazillian Cara · Post by **Brazillian Cara** » Sat Jan 22, 2005 8:05 pm

(quote)Thus, we have an interesting dichotomy. A cold-hearted hero who surpresses positive emotions and a gore-loving villain who revels in them.(quote)

There was actually a special comic (the one in wich the batgirl is shot and crippled) where in the end the Joker manages to make a joke that actually makes Batman LAUGH THE CRAP OUT of himself. It's even frightful.

Post by **Crazy Penguin** » Sat Jan 22, 2005 8:23 pm

The Killing Joke?

Brazillian Cara · Post by **Brazillian Cara** » Sat Jan 22, 2005 8:30 pm

I dunno. It could be.

Grant · Post by **Grant** » Sat Jan 22, 2005 8:50 pm

It is.

j-man · Post by **j-man** » Sun Jan 23, 2005 8:53 am

Didn't the Joker break his own neck in one book? He's a fuckin' nutcase.

Baba O'Reily · Post by **Baba O'Reily** » Sun Jan 23, 2005 9:06 am

That's part of what makes him such a unique character. His batshit insanity.

j-man · Post by **j-man** » Sun Jan 23, 2005 9:45 am

Why is batshit supposedly so insane, anyway?

Light Speed · Post by **Light Speed** » Sun Jan 23, 2005 1:50 pm

People make plates out of it, that is pretty crazy.

j-man · Post by **j-man** » Sun Jan 23, 2005 2:31 pm

I put my hand in some batshit once. It wasn't insane, just kinda warm and goopy.