Ebert says: Movies > Games

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Green Gibbon! wrote:

If you want to talk about games specifically as fine art, I would absolutely agree that the medium is far from maturation, and would go so far as to state that there are certain walls standing between it and such status that I, frankly, can see no feasible ways of overcoming. However, I am of the impression that these "walls" are not any pitfalls inherent in the medium itself, but are a result of the cost and manpower required to create them. As development costs increase, there's a greater pressure to create only games that will appeal to the widest possible audience, and as with all forms of kitsch, the best way to do that is to neutralize it. Dumb it down. Rip out its heart and soul and make it a cut and paste formula based on market trends and popular opinion. At this point, I really don't know how we're ever going to evolve beyond "games the industry" into "games the art". However, if there is any hope of it ever happening, people need to recognize what the problems are, and I don't think Ebert here is on the right track.
I agree with what was stated by Green Goblin!, the high production cost of games are discuraging publishers from taking risks on anything that wouldn't appeal to kids and pre-teens. However I think that Nintendo's desinge philosophy is a larger step in the right direction. Just compare the games on DS to those on PSP(Play station Paper weight :razz: ), there are relitivley no original titles for that hand held, just remakes of old Play Station games and ports of fad games. However DS has givin us a new Sonic game that is not only decent but GOOD, and I beleive that it's the best Sonic game since Adventure. However comic books are in a similar predicament, that they are are directed towards children and nerds. So even if Nintendo does get it's way, to get more open minded games on the market that don't put on the "Movie Hat" the medium could be stuck in the same ditch as comic books, which I find to be fustrating.

Also, based on Ebert's logic Musicals are also inferior, becouse it's just people signing about every little thing. Musicals are like vidio games: When writing a Musical you start with the music, in a vidio game you start with the game play.

(This must be my longest post ever, and i apologise for being an ass)

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Yeah, Nintendo's philosophy is definately in the right direction. With the DS and the new Revolution controller they are really the only company actually trying to change the industry. However I can't help, but think it's gonna come back and bite them in the ass. I dunno why, but I just see Nintendo going the way of Sega by the end of this next generation.

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