2008 is tomorrow!

jenkins · Post by **jenkins** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 10:51 am

I'm going to go ahead and assume that most people here will fall into one of three categories regarding the 2008 US Presidential election:

1) Vaguely aware of it
2) Well aware of it
3) Planning to vote in it

With that in mind, does anyone have any opinions on the candidates? Any preferences? Any people they hate?

Owen Axel · Post by **Owen Axel** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:10 am

My faith in the US public is shot. For the sake of foreign relations, I can only hope the lesser evil will come out on top this time.

Yami CJMErl · Post by **Yami CJMErl** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:11 pm

I find it amusing that (as far as I know, I could be wrong) The Democrats have all the "firsts" in their camp--first potential black president, first potential woman president, all that stuff--while the only real variation in the Republican candidates so far is what state they came from and how rich they are.

This is, of course, all my own viewings.

FlashTHD · Post by **FlashTHD** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:39 pm

At this point, i'll take anybody but Hilary. That woman is not mentally fit to be commander in chief. It's a little hard to trust any candidate that says that at the rate we're going, we'll be implanting chips into kids' heads that tell them what products to buy. And then their PR troupe does nothing to spin it or cover it up, indicating that she's not trying to make a funny.

Black Rook · Post by **Black Rook** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 1:28 pm

After carefully reviewing all of these preliminary candidates, I can safely say that I will vote for the one wearing a suit.

jenkins · Post by **jenkins** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 1:52 pm

I'm definitely voting, and as of now, I think it'll be Obama. So far, he's impressed me far more than any other candidate in either camp (though my preference goes left anyway), and the fact that there's a youthful and energetic leftist running and running well is enough to renew my hope in this country. That, and his middle name is Hussein, which is awesome. It'd be like having a president called Marx.

Cuckooguy · Post by **Cuckooguy** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 1:55 pm

I bet the taller one wins.

Locit · Post by **Locit** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 1:58 pm

It is too early to discuss this.
It is always too early to discuss this.

One Classy Bloke · Post by **One Classy Bloke** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 2:07 pm

I'm voting for Nader.

cjmcray · Post by **cjmcray** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 2:13 pm

I'm voting for Kodos.

jenkins · Post by **jenkins** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 2:22 pm

Locit wrote:It is too early to discuss this.
It is always too early to discuss this.

Tell that to the candidates. The primaries are still a year away, and here they are, going all-out already.

Yami CJMErl · Post by **Yami CJMErl** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 2:24 pm

UNICRON 2008 -- He doesn't NEED your vote.

And yeah, Hilary's pseudo-Jack-Thompson vendetta against video games is the only thing I really have wrong with her. Because judging from MY fractured memories, I'll take a lame real-life political soap opera (Clinton sex scandal and/or lawsuit) over imporvised explosive devices and comparisons to some war from over 30 years ago (Iraq War) ANY day of the week.

Post by **Delphine** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 2:50 pm

I'm voting for myself.

Shadow Hog · Post by **Shadow Hog** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:43 pm

I nominate Kefka.

Heroic One · Post by **Heroic One** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 5:28 pm

You scare me sometimes, Forrest...

KitsuneDarkStalker · Post by **KitsuneDarkStalker** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:01 pm

I don't care who wins, they're all shit.

Wooduck51 · Post by **Wooduck51** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:08 pm

I shall vote for the one that:

Shall not raise my taxes.
Shall end the income tax.
Shall not try to take my guns.
Shall not try to put microchips in everything I own including
and not limited to my birds.
Shall not make life hell by signing any save the earth treaties unless
it means going entirely nuclear.
Shall end the party system.
Shall not be a prick.

Which of course rules out all Democrat And Republican candidates at this time. So it comes down to choosing someone who will do the least damage, or picking the perfect choice should it arrive.

And speaking of Ralph:
http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/nader.php

Post by **Delphine** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:14 pm

Wooduck51 wrote:Shall not raise my taxes.
Shall end the income tax.
Shall not try to take my guns.
Shall not try to put microchips in everything I own including
and not limited to my birds.
Shall not make life hell by signing any save the earth treaties unless
it means going entirely nuclear.
Shall end the party system.
Shall not be a prick.

Crap. I had your vote until the last one.

Majestic Joey · Post by **Majestic Joey** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:17 pm

I'm probably going to vote for obama just because he looks like a good candidate to blindly follow.

Light Speed · Post by **Light Speed** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:21 pm

Yeah, I agree and when the time comes for me to pointlessly vote Democrat in the great state of Utah, I will most likely vote for him. Assuming he wins the primaries.

Post by Bo » Mon Feb 12, 2007 8:10 pm

I don't want the office to be filled.

EmeraldGuardian · Post by **EmeraldGuardian** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 8:55 pm

Hilary's chip will read 666.

Post by **Delphine** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:15 pm

Bo wrote:I don't want the office to be filled.

I do.

With cement.

Yami CJMErl · Post by **Yami CJMErl** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:34 pm

Why not lime JELL-O?

...it's what I would use...

Rolken · Post by **Rolken** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:18 pm

jenkins wrote:I'm definitely voting, and as of now, I think it'll be Obama. So far, he's impressed me far more than any other candidate in either camp (though my preference goes left anyway), and the fact that there's a youthful and energetic leftist running and running well is enough to renew my hope in this country. That, and his middle name is Hussein, which is awesome. It'd be like having a president called Marx.

Agreed. For awhile I was reticent to support him, since I tend towards libertarianism - but upon reflection, Obama's platform is sadly more libertarian than today's Republican Party.

And issues aside, a president who speaks and acts what he deems to be justified regardless of effects on polls or electorate would be most welcome, at least with someone as wonderfully intelligent as Obama. Both parties have been strangled by what they think the electorate wants, but the Democrats have been particularly ineffective at it; I'm reminded of Al Gore hardly speaking a word about global warming because his advisors told him it wouldn't earn him any votes, even though it's an issue he clearly feels strongly about.

In particular, this is the best speech from a politician I've ever heard or read. It's amazing to me how the pundits almost universally fail to comprehend his appeal. He's absolutely inspiring not only because his story is universally appealing,
but because he's so absolutely lucid and transparent. On a visceral level he is just obviously more sincere and well-thought-out than stunts like John Kerry "reporting for duty" or Bush's "mission accomplished".