The quintessential villain

Arcade · Post by **Arcade** » Tue Aug 01, 2006 5:22 pm

Metal Sonic was really bad...since he had no soul, was designed to destroy Sonic...and could do it!.

Shadow Hog · Post by **Shadow Hog** » Tue Aug 01, 2006 9:01 pm

But didn't.

Come to think of it, that describes every Sonic villain ever. I know it'd contradict the feel of the series somewhat, but a badguy needs a victory in here somewhere. Even if it's a minor one that sets up a sequel or something... Just something that makes them less inept.

Neo · Post by **Neo** » Tue Aug 01, 2006 9:58 pm

Eggman did kill Sonic in Sonic Adventure 2, or so he thought. I'd say that's as far as you'll go with winning villains, ignoring Shadow's Dark endings.

Shadow Hog · Post by **Shadow Hog** » Tue Aug 01, 2006 11:02 pm

I was thinking more overall, actually (as in, in the final, true ending of the game, say, Eggman stumbles upon a new weapon, which he uses in the next game), but that's a good point.

Radrappy · Post by **Radrappy** » Fri Aug 04, 2006 4:06 pm

Wait. Metal Sonic was bad because. . . he had no soul. . ? :(

Brazillian Cara · Post by **Brazillian Cara** » Fri Aug 04, 2006 7:08 pm

Basicaly, that would be something that would make him less evil. Being a programmed machine isn't exactly something that gives much real personality.

Arcade · Post by **Arcade** » Wed Aug 09, 2006 6:19 pm

Radrappy wrote:Wait. Metal Sonic was bad because. . . he had no soul. . ? :(

He was programmed to kill Sonic and had no feelings. It was like a Terminator, its keep and keep going until it couldnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t longer function. Unlike the last Metal Sonic(Sonic heroes) that had a screwed up mind, a Ego bigger than Eggman and totally idiotic plans.

The best example of a powerfull "robot Sonic" would be Silver Sonic, it was almost unstoppable when powered up with the Master emerald, too bad it never faced Sonic in Ã¢â‚¬Å“Gold modeÃ¢â‚¬ï¿¾. Or Sonic would have been crashed and burned. It was also too dumb, since it was a old model and all, maybe thatÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s why Knuckles could defeat it.

I donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t get why Eggman havenÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t tried to create a mix of Sonic & Chaos DNA, it would be unstoppable with Sonic power as Super and Chaos immortality, maybe he was trying to do that in Sonic heroes but metal ruined all.

Metal: I metal, eat get seven emeralds, metal got big, crush Sonic!.

That was Metal Sonic plan in heroes....

Chaos Chao · Post by **Chaos Chao** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 11:26 pm

Eggman imo

Gerald comes to a close second

Shady · Post by **Shady** » Sun Aug 20, 2006 5:56 pm

The Tails doll. Definately. He is the ruiner of worlds! A being of pure evil! Do not stare into his eyes or he will swallow your soul!

jenkins · Post by **jenkins** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 2:20 pm

Shady wrote:The Tails doll. Definately. He is the ruiner of worlds! A being of pure evil! Do not stare into his eyes or he will swallow your soul!

Wait...Tails Doll was introduced in Sonic R. In which Metal Knuckles was also introduced. So we have:

Sonic vs. Metal Sonic
Knuckles vs. Metal Knuckles
Tails vs. ...Tails Doll?

Perhaps they thought Tails was too adorable to get an evil metal version, so they settled for a less-evil foe: Tails Doll! In which case, either Tails Doll is far less villainous than Metal Sonic, or they just have an out-of-whack sense of what is and what isn't evil.

Omni Hunter · Post by **Omni Hunter** » Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:20 pm

Tails Doll's eyes show the evilness, doesn't Esrever's avatar say enough?

Arcade · Post by **Arcade** » Wed Aug 23, 2006 1:58 pm

Yes he is evil!, But I guess they couldnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t use a mecha tails cause that was one of the things Tails used in "Tails adventure".

jenkins · Post by **jenkins** » Sun Aug 27, 2006 4:48 pm

Omni Hunter wrote:Tails Doll's eyes show the evilness, doesn't Esrever's avatar say enough?

Heeey...so that's what his avi is...I thought it was some abstract art of a toilet of sorts (inspired by "Drano Master" above his avi), or maybe a pigeon turd. But the eye makes more sense...

Although I disagree anyway, I also call your attention to my previous point: even if Tails Doll turned out more evil than any of the others, I suspect it was unintentional on the part of the designers. So it wasn't meant to be evil...just an out of control creation...

Post by **Crazy Penguin** » Sun Aug 27, 2006 6:57 pm

Shadow Hog · Post by **Shadow Hog** » Sun Aug 27, 2006 8:06 pm

Did we ever decide whether his eyes went SCHLUUUUUURRRPY or not?

James McGeachie · Post by **James McGeachie** » Sun Aug 27, 2006 9:19 pm

Omni Hunter wrote:Tails Doll's eyes show the evilness, doesn't Esrever's avatar say enough?

I'd always wondered what that avatar was supposed to be...

Post by **Delphine** » Sun Aug 27, 2006 10:21 pm

Shadow Hog wrote:SCHLUUUUUURRRPY

IT WAS A COMPLETE FABRICATION IT'S ONLY A STUFFED TOY

Baba O'Reily · Post by **Baba O'Reily** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 7:13 am

THAT'S WHAT THEY SAID ABOUT HOBBES BUT HE ALWAYS MANAGED TO TACKLE CALVIN WHEN HE CAME HOME FROM SCHOOL YOU BLASPHEMER

jenkins · Post by **jenkins** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 9:55 am

WASN'T THAT SARCASM DELPHINE

Brazillian Cara · Post by **Brazillian Cara** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 10:01 am

OF COURSE IT WASN'T NOW STOP YELLING

M.C.Dillinger · Post by **M.C.Dillinger** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 11:55 am

LOUD NOISES!

The GHZ Forum

The quintessential villain

Vote for the baddest of the bad