New TMNT movie teaser

Post by **Delphine** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 8:54 pm

Behold the power of Basil.

M.C.Dillinger · Post by **M.C.Dillinger** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 8:56 pm

Frieza2000 wrote:I think you've missed the point of literature.

Could you tell me what the point of literature is. I never understood why I'm supposed to enjoy THE GREAT GATSBY,TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD or LORD OF THE FLIES

Post by **Delphine** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 9:16 pm

Not enough pictures for you?

M.C.Dillinger · Post by **M.C.Dillinger** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 9:46 pm

No I just hate the stories pictures or not

Post by **Delphine** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 9:52 pm

Not enough explosions, then?

Post by **Popcorn** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 9:57 pm

The 'point' of literature is to be good, meaningful or otherwise worthwhile storytelling. Whether you think any of it achieves that goal or not does not affect its purpose.

Light Speed · Post by **Light Speed** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 10:13 pm

I didn't really enjoy any of those three books either, but I got the point of them and would probably recommend them. I know that probably doesn't make sense, but whether or not I enjoyed the story I enjoyed the message.

I think this whole topic is just a blatant attempt at controversy anyway though.

EDIT: Oh sorry, I assumed this was that topic about hating a bunch of well known books, not the TMNT one.

Locit · Post by **Locit** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 10:14 pm

M.C.Dillinger wrote:I never understood why I'm supposed to enjoy THE GREAT GATSBY,TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD or LORD OF THE FLIES

You are yelling in my internet ears. And To Kill a Mockingbird is the timeless classic of growing up and the human dignity that unites us all.

Baba O'Reily · Post by **Baba O'Reily** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 10:22 pm

And pirates. You can't forget the pirates.

Anything sounds dull if you boil it down to the basics.

Descartes' Discourse on Method - Different people see different things, which means the world is different to everyone.
Player Piano by Kurt Vonnegut - Man is dissatisfied with job, and then realizes that he hates the world.
OK Computer - Thom Yorke sings in falsetto about more or less anything. Weird noises ensue.
The Shawshank Redemption - Man is imprisoned, makes friends with wise black man, realizes the importance of hope.

Isambard · Post by **Isambard** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 11:33 pm

Could you tell me what the point of literature is. I never understood why I'm supposed to enjoy THE GREAT GATSBY,TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD or LORD OF THE FLIES

The point of literature? I'm not exactly sure that there is a point. The point of sex is to procreate. The point of eating is to maintain your body. The point of putting on a raincoat is to avoid getting wet.

The point of reading a book...ohhhh wait a second.

The point of reading a book is so we don't all end up like Waffle House waitresses. That's what Bill Hicks once said if I remember correctly...yes.

However, I wouldn't let people lord these books over you. There's smart TV and there are dumb books in the grand scheme of things. Because Tom Clancey novels have taught me so much about life! And Harry Potter too!

Please, without equal amounts of world experience, common sense, and being well-read all together we'd amount to very little. If everyone just knew how to write books then who'll fix anything that gets broken? Who'll know how to cook a meal? Who, pray-tell, will know how to administor a forum?

I submit to you that reading and writing are simple enough in form that they should not be held above other forms of human accomplishment. Being able to run a mile, fix a car, build a house, paint a potrait, and administer medical aid should all be equal when it comes to respect.

Which is great for me because I get to feel like I'm equal to Shakespeare, who probably just stole all his stuff from the guy before him just like everyone else has done :P

And To Kill a Mockingbird sucked. If I had a kid and they call me anything other than GOD then I would slap them so hard their head would pop off like an asprin cap.

Frieza2000 · Post by **Frieza2000** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 11:41 pm

The point of literature is to communicate.

The literal definition of literature is something that's written. Obviously when you write something your intention is that some particular person or group of people will understand it. Literature as art is much the same. Its purpose is to communicate something, but in an artistic way. I'm going to make the bold assumption that everyone here knows what art is and excuse myself from explaining.

Some literature is written to express an emotion rather than a message, or simply to entertain with some combination of emotions and provocative events and situations. There's certainly an art to this storytelling, but it requires considerably less talent on the part of the writer and little to no intellectual engagement by on the part of the reader. For this reason it is considered base. That's my 1 AM interpretation, anyway.

Baba O'Reily · Post by **Baba O'Reily** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 4:10 pm

but reeding is teh dumb lolz

Brazillian Cara · Post by **Brazillian Cara** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 4:13 pm

No candy for you until you come with a better joke. C'mon, you know you can.

Ritz · Post by **Ritz** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 4:40 pm

Am I the only person here who couldn't help but giggle at the author's penchant for depriving the boys of their skivvies at every possible opportunity in Lord of the Flies? Be honest, now.

Post by **G.Silver** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 5:59 pm

I can still remember this quote from when I read it in high school as the kids describe their ideal society: "We'll have rules, lots of rules! And when anyone breaks 'em--whacko, wizard, bong, doink!"

You british GHZers out there, have any of you ever used "wizard" as an adjective? That one always cracks me up.

Post by **Segaholic2** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 6:13 pm

Isn't "wizard" being used as a verb in that sentence?

Omni Hunter · Post by **Omni Hunter** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 6:26 pm

Nope, wizard has only been used as a noun over our side of the pond to my recollection.
Although, according to dictionary.com, "wizard" is British slang for something excellent (Like "smashing").
If I did hear someone using the word in that sense though, I would kick their genitals into their arse.

Post by **G.Silver** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 8:15 pm

Segaholic2 wrote:Isn't "wizard" being used as a verb in that sentence?

I think it's actually being used as a sound effect?

Post by **Popcorn** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 1:18 pm

G.Silver wrote:
Segaholic2 wrote:Isn't "wizard" being used as a verb in that sentence?
I think it's actually being used as a sound effect?

Actually, I think it's being used as an exclamation, as indeed 'sound effects' sometimes are: eg, "Wham! Instead boner!". I don't think 'wizard' was ever widely-used as an adjective (eg "This boner is pretty wizard") but more of an exclamation (eg "Wizard! A boner!").

As for its popularity, well... it's a bit upper-class English schoolboy, a bit Just William. These days, I don't think anyone really says it much outside of ironic useage, although its cousin 'wicked' has come back into fashion in recent years. (I like the American use of the word 'wicked' as a modifier, incidentally, like: "My boner is wicked huge.")

Bonus on-topic fact: in the (surprisingly well-written) official Sonic novels of the early 90s, which were British in origin, Tails was written as a kind of naive, faux-British foil to Sonic's bodacious surfer schtick. He said things like "Wizard!". It was pretty funny.

Omni Hunter · Post by **Omni Hunter** » Tue Aug 01, 2006 11:31 am

Sonic novels? I'll have to have a little search on that. I have a few old official books but they are pretty much adventure game books and the like.

j-man · Post by **j-man** » Wed Aug 02, 2006 11:51 am

Oh yeah, the "Martin Adams" series of books. That shit was untold. I've still got a well-thumbed copy of Castle Robotnik somewhere, and it surprises me how cleverly written and laugh-out-loud funny it is for a book aimed at kiddywinks.

Post by **big_smile** » Wed Aug 02, 2006 2:27 pm

Omni Hunter wrote:Sonic novels? I'll have to have a little search on that. I have a few old official books but they are pretty much adventure game books and the like.

Have a look at Tyro's page. It contains a cover scan of each book together with the original blurb from the back.

^_^

Neo Yi · Post by **Neo Yi** » Wed Aug 02, 2006 4:14 pm

Oh, damn. Nostaglia. I still own the first two books by Micheal Teitelbaum.

Grant · Post by **Grant** » Wed Aug 02, 2006 4:19 pm

Sonic the Hedgehog - Joke Book

WARNING!

For a fast, fun-packed, frantic read - stop here!

These are the jokes that even Sonic the Hedgehog gets into a spin about! And if the coolest dude around creases up at them, you don't stand a chance!

I really want this now. I wonder what types of jokes were inside?

How did Dr. Robotnik describe his latest adventure?
He egg-sclaimed that it was egg-citing!

What's Miles Prower's favorite bed time story?
Tails of the Black Laggoon

What do you call it when a blue hedgehog that can run really fast saves you at the last possible moment?
In the Sonic of time

...More as I think of them.

Light Speed · Post by **Light Speed** » Wed Aug 02, 2006 4:23 pm

Creases up at them? That sounds painful.