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Knuckles Dawson · Post by **Knuckles Dawson** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 1:40 pm

Wasn't there a "Time Gun" in a movie once. I have this mental image of a guy being shot and the beam or something causing old age-decay to what it hit. Or maybe I'm just thinking of the fight scene at the end of "The Time Machine"

chriscaffee · Post by **chriscaffee** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 1:41 pm

I don't know how much stock to put into this (I got it from my friend who is a physics genius) but apparently you can use sound waves as a weapon. At certain frequencies they will make rigid material shatter depending on the material and the frequency of the sound. You could use such a device to literally shatter a guy's skull. Maybe those will be used in cartoons if/when lasers become standard weapons.

Knuckles Dawson · Post by **Knuckles Dawson** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 1:52 pm

Kinda like in Eraser with Governor Arnold?

chriscaffee · Post by **chriscaffee** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 2:04 pm

No. Eraser featured so called "rail guns." The idea was no different then the current SCHV (small caliber, high-velocity) philosophy for current Personal Defense Weapons. Basically take a really small bullet and accelerate it to really high speeds. It will penetrate almost anything and will have a lot of energy to impart on the target (which is why rifle rounds are usually smaller but faster then pistol rounds).

The "rail gun" was just a normal gun that fires magnetic ammunition using a series of electromagnets down the length of the barrel. There are few advantages of a man-portable system set up this way. The advantages really only exist as an anti-armor or artillery sytem. The first advantage is heat. There isn't as much due to lack of super heated expanding gases. The other advantage is that ammunition doesn't have to be explosive. No powder, no rocket engine, nothing. So when you have these things sitting in the deck of a ship, these tungstun or iron bullets, if the area is hit, the rounds won't explode.

In the movie it was said that the rounds were "near the speed of light" which is impossible, and even if it was, Arnie couldn't have dual weilded them since momentum is conserved. The recoil would have been lethal if the rounds had enough momentum to flip over that jeep and throw the victims several feet. The targeting system also didn't make any sense. The only way it would have worked is if someone was on the otherside of the target shining Xrays through them and into the scope.

And they never reload ever, nor do they change powerpacks or whatever.

Frieza2000 · Post by **Frieza2000** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 2:22 pm

I can vouch for that sound weapons thing. I saw a video of a sheet of metal being made into puddy with a speaker. All you need to know is the residual frequency (I think that's the right term) of your target.

Double-S- · Post by **Double-S-** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 2:25 pm

Using frequency to shatter glass is such old news. I saw a video of it in a physics class.

chriscaffee · Post by **chriscaffee** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 2:46 pm

I wasn't talking about glass, I was talkilng about bone.

Baba O'Reily · Post by **Baba O'Reily** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 3:30 pm

Niiiiice.

Double-S- · Post by **Double-S-** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 4:15 pm

All things have some frequency that messes with their whatever structure and will cause them to break. It's somewhat interesting.

Knuckles Dawson · Post by **Knuckles Dawson** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 5:06 pm

So are we now talking about The Core? And how it used it's stuff to get through to the center of the earth and (Spoiler! ---->) back.

plasticwingsband · Post by **plasticwingsband** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 9:22 pm

Tsuyoshi-kun wrote:And I bet these parents are the same ones who let their kids watch South Park and play Halo or some equally stupid, violent video game.

Yeah. That makes fucking sense.

I hope you weren't doggin' on South Park, homes, cause then we got beef.

Zeta · Post by **Zeta** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 10:13 pm

South Park actually teaches a LOT of good morals. There's like one in nearly every episode.

Light Speed · Post by **Light Speed** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 10:25 pm

I don't know if it teaches morals as much as blatantly disobeying them.

Grant · Post by **Grant** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 10:43 pm

Have you seen the Paris Hilton episode?

plasticwingsband · Post by **plasticwingsband** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 10:52 pm

Light Speed wrote:I don't know if it teaches morals as much as blatantly disobeying them.

I assume you haven't watched an episodes since the show first came out, because it often does have a moral lesson in every episode.

Hell, even the first Season had Big Gay Al's Big Gay Boat Ride, which actually had a very positive message. Sure, it was presented in a very un-P.C. way, but I don't think that necessarily detracts from the message.

Dark Crow · Post by **Dark Crow** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 11:37 pm

It's true. If you look past the crudeness, black humour, and the shock value of cardboard nine year old kids swearing their heads off and kicking their smaller brothers into a trash can, the morals of the show become clear. ItÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s just presented in a amusing manner.

Knuckles Dawson · Post by **Knuckles Dawson** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 9:53 am

So us messed up teens can relate.

Tsuyoshi-kun · Post by **Tsuyoshi-kun** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 12:36 pm

Knuckles Dawson wrote:
Tsuyoshi-kun wrote:....and play Halo or some equally stupid, violent video game.

Yeah. That makes fucking sense.
I hope you only mean that in a general manner, and not in a specific one. But to each their own.

It is general. Although some parents would be smart enough not to let their children play violent video games. That's how I was raised; I didn't buy teen rated video games until I was in college.

chriscaffee · Post by **chriscaffee** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 12:49 pm

I don't think it matters what the kid plays. My parents banned me from playing Mortal Kombat in elementary school and Soul Caliber in middle school, but it's not like I still didn't get my dose of violence and sex through other media outlets. I don't think sheltering your kids is a good parenting technique because that just makes kids ill-equiped to deal with the real world.

Parents should be teaching their kids to think and differentiate fantasy from reality, not pretend the fantasy doesn't exist.

Post by **Segaholic2** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 12:58 pm

Yeah, I agree. Over-protecting your kids is a horrible idea, but it's not as bad as not regulating anything they do whatsoever. There has to be a balance.

Unfortunately, my parents were way over-protective. No violent videogames for me. Of course, that didn't stop me from buying/playing them whenever I could get away with it. Nowadays they don't really care whatsoever what I buy or play. I've got a shelf full of M-rated games at home.

Knuckles Dawson · Post by **Knuckles Dawson** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 1:37 pm

Well, I didn't get a teen rated game till I was a teen, nor a M rated game till I was 17. So all in all, it was okay. Back when I first got my N64 I was not allowed to get Goldeneye, but due to the stealth nature of Mission: Impossible, I was allowed to get that. Or something.

Dache · Post by **Dache** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 1:59 pm

My parents bought me Grand Theft Auto when I was 11.

Light Speed · Post by **Light Speed** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 2:46 pm

I don't think my parents even know video games have ratings. If they do know they don't care. They raised me well enough to know that I'm not gonna go kill someone cause I saw it in a game. They did however not let me see R movies until I was 13 or so. Of course I think the reason for it was because it was sort of a unwritten rule that I wasn't allowed so I didn't really care. Then once an R movie came out that I actually wanted to see I asked my dad and he said ok. So I'm not sure if it was because I wasn't allowed or if it is because I never asked.

Knuckles Dawson · Post by **Knuckles Dawson** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 3:10 pm

Really it could go either way. Once I started paying for games and consoles myself, I got what I wanted to get. In any case, violent kids are the result of bad parenting anyway.

Grant · Post by **Grant** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 4:01 pm

My parents never really cared what I watched or listened to except for a regrettable incident in 6th grade where I wrote what I thought was a clever attempt at dark humor about how I wanted to kill all of the teachers. Yeah, that was a mistake.

This was shortly before Columbine, so luckily I wasn't expelled.