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Dunjohn · Post by **Dunjohn** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 1:38 pm

To date I know of three english-language Sonic cartoons: Sonic the Hedgehog (the Archie one), The Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog (the cheap but funny one) and Sonic X. However, while I was gawking around my local HMV I saw a couple of cheap DVDs of another series called Sonic Underground.

As far as I can tell, Sonic is the only recognisable character, and he seems to be in a rock band composed of other mutant hedgehogs like him, with names like Manic and Sonia. I presume that last one wasn't a typo.

Whattheheckisthis??? Is it worth forking out a few bucks to settle my curiosity, or is it utter rubbish? Looks okay-ish.

Post by **Popcorn** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 1:39 pm

It's shit.

Dunjohn · Post by **Dunjohn** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 1:44 pm

Shit as in, un-Sonic, or shit as in badly animated, crap plots, etc? Cuz I don't mind the first one, they are pretty cheap...

Post by **Esrever** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 1:46 pm

Sonic Underground is really, really bad. Both as a Sonic thing and as a stand alone cartoon.

Jaleel White voices all three main characters, including the girl. And sometimes, the girl sings.

No. Just no.

Post by **Green Gibbon!** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 1:51 pm

I don't even think the series got to finish airing before it was pulled.

Dunjohn · Post by **Dunjohn** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 1:51 pm

I dunno, I might just get one....

A friend of mine mail-ordered the Sonic Movie a few years back, before it came out in Europe. I still sorta feel I owe him...

Spazz · Post by **Spazz** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 3:19 pm

Dunjohn wrote:Shit as in, un-Sonic, or shit as in badly animated, crap plots, etc?

YES.

Dunjohn wrote:I dunno, I might just get one....

NO.

Ngangbius · Post by **Ngangbius** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 3:26 pm

Esrever wrote:Jaleel White voices all three main characters, including the girl. And sometimes, the girl sings.

No. Just no.

*cries as the memories of Sonia's English dub voice comes back to haunt her*

I only saw 10 minutes of Sonic Underground and as soon as Sonia opened her trap and sang, I have seen enough. WORST. FEMALE. VOICE. IN. A. CARTOON. EVER!

Frank Oz should be the only man allowed to voice female characters.

Admittably, I didn't mind Manic--his design and the concept of a theiving hedgehog. Though it would have been much better if he wasn't related to Sonic. Sonic having siblings is such a lame concept.

Post by **Esrever** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 4:22 pm

I know I've brought this up before, but Manic bore a disturbing resemblance to a fan-character I made back in the mid ninties. I guess either they were spying on me, or their character designer was just as big a hack as I was when I was 14.

Post by **Delphine** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 4:30 pm

A green hedgehog fancharacter that may or may not be related to Sonic isn't exactly an original idea. If they did steal it, it was from a whole bunch of people. :P

And, heh, anyone else remember "Ashura"?

J.E.Smith · Post by **J.E.Smith** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 5:04 pm

Heck, the third season of SatAM would have been better than SU. Ironically, just like SatAM when it first came out, SoA loved it. In fact, I think they prefer it over SatAM. For one thing, for some reason they're holding DiC back from showing SatAM in syndication in the US(The only place its currently airing is on two stations in the UK, though there's a PBS station in Pennsylvania that wants to air it and is trying to snatch up the rights), yet they have no problem with SU still being aired.

To be fair though, at least Jaleel didn't provide Sonia's singing voice...

Post by **Esrever** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 5:08 pm

Delphine wrote:A green hedgehog fancharacter that may or may not be related to Sonic isn't exactly an original idea. If they did steal it, it was from a whole bunch of people. :P

And, heh, anyone else remember "Ashura"?

Ah, but it's not JUST that they are both green hedgehogs... Manic has nearly identical headfur, vest and pair of shoes, as well! SHOCK!

Spazz · Post by **Spazz** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 5:14 pm

Esrever wrote:Ah, but it's not JUST that they are both green hedgehogs... Manic has nearly identical headfur, vest and pair of shoes, as well! SHOCK!

The <i>exact</i> same thing happened to a friend of mine with Skies of Arcadia.

Brazillian Cara · Post by **Brazillian Cara** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 5:26 pm

Should we make a poll about wich were the worst american Sonic cartoon ever?

Ngangbius · Post by **Ngangbius** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 5:51 pm

Eserver, that's eerily creepy. All that's missing are the spike armbands.

J.E.Smith wrote:Heck, the third season of SatAM would have been better than SU. Ironically, just like SatAM when it first came out, SoA loved it. In fact, I think they prefer it over SatAM. For one thing, for some reason they're holding DiC back from showing SatAM in syndication in the US(The only place its currently airing is on two stations in the UK, though there's a PBS station in Pennsylvania that wants to air it and is trying to snatch up the rights), yet they have no problem with SU still being aired.

I believe it is not Sega of America who has a problem with showing SatAM in the U.S.(I have a feeling they could careless), but it is Disney who hold the U.S. rights to the series. They are the ones you want to complain about.

j-man · Post by **j-man** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 6:03 pm

It was French. That's all I should have to say, really.

Brazillian Cara · Post by **Brazillian Cara** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 9:49 am

Disney made Sonic uncool. Period.

Spazz · Post by **Spazz** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 11:55 am

As much as I despise Disney, they didn't make Sonic uncool, ABC or whoever made SatAM did.

Grant · Post by **Grant** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 12:30 pm

Disney owns ABC, y'know.

Spazz · Post by **Spazz** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 12:33 pm

Oh yeah, you're right. Screw Disney!

Ngangbius · Post by **Ngangbius** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 12:47 pm

Spazz wrote:As much as I despise Disney, they didn't make Sonic uncool, ABC or whoever made SatAM did.

Well, DiC did create all of the Western Sonic cartoons--which includes Sonic Underground.

So screw them too.

Spazz · Post by **Spazz** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 12:53 pm

Actually, I kinda like watching AoStH as a kid. It was a little dumb, but not as utterly stupid as SatAM or Underground.

Neo Yi · Post by **Neo Yi** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 1:01 pm

I manage to actually catch one episode of SU packed in with my Super Mario Cartoon DVD. All I can say is the fact that the episode centered around giant feet made it even worse then the singing.
~Neo

Grant · Post by **Grant** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 1:12 pm

Spazz wrote:Actually, I kinda like watching AoStH as a kid. It was a little dumb, but not as utterly stupid as SatAM or Underground.

I always preferred AoStH as a kid, too. SatAM was just too angsty, which didn't seem to fit the mood of how I thought a Sonic cartoon should be.

Dunjohn · Post by **Dunjohn** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 4:30 pm

SatAM? Whassat?

I consulted my brother. He seems to have heard of this Sonic Underground. He says it would not redress the Sonic Movie bad karma balance. He says it would only make it worse.

Well, okay, perhaps it's best left on the shelf....