About Sonic R music...

Opa-Opa · Post by **Opa-Opa** » Sat Nov 10, 2007 8:46 pm

Ever since I first played Sonic R and listened to its *cough* unbelievable soundtrack, I had my doubts about what the hell did it remind me. Survivor (the band, not the tv show) or those awful songs that played in Baywatch. Even though Baywatch was in first place for all this years, I think I finally found out what it really looks like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onrzgB_-0sM

DackAttac · Post by **DackAttac** » Sat Nov 10, 2007 9:38 pm

Sonic R's music was pretty much ripped straight out of the 80's. And if not quite the 80's, the "early 90's", which were, in spirit, pretty much just the late, late 80's.

Hybrid · Post by **Hybrid** » Sat Nov 10, 2007 10:29 pm

I've owned Sonic R PC for so long, but I never got the music to work. In fact, I'm fairly certain that the music files aren't even present on the CD. Its a legit copy, too.

I don't want to hijack the thread or anything, but is there any way to download the songs and trick the game into playing them?

Yami CJMErl · Post by **Yami CJMErl** » Sat Nov 10, 2007 10:49 pm

I can only assume to get them off of the FastFeet FTP (or Galbadia Hotel) and stick them in whatever folder they should go in on the hard drive...but I'm only guessing.

Cuckooguy · Post by **Cuckooguy** » Sat Nov 10, 2007 11:24 pm

The music on Sonic R PC are music tracks on the CD itself. That is, track 1 is the game data, track 2 is music, track 3 is music, etc. etc. Lots of computer games used to do that. I don't know if they still do that anymore. I think it's just your computer, try playing track 2 and above on any CD music player.

Isuka · Post by **Isuka** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 12:02 am

Yep, that's right, all tracks are in Audio CD format, both the vocalized and "karaoke" ones.

It doesn't help much, but here you'll find the Japanese edition of the game's soundtrack in MP4 format (it won't do because it only features the vocal versions). You should try to verify if the digital audio output of the CD/ DVD drive is properly connected to the motherboard or sound card, and if that's the case make sure not to have it's channel muted through the volume control itself.

DackAttac · Post by **DackAttac** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 12:42 am

Hybrid wrote:I don't want to hijack the thread or anything, but is there any way to download the songs and trick the game into playing them?

I don't remember how I did this, but I once tricked the PC Sonic 3D Blast into playing my MP3's. And it used a mixed-mode CD-ROM. I think I dragged the game data folder onto the hard drive, then burned a mixed-mode where the game was the first track, and each track was a similar-lengthed song of my own music. I'd mentally filed it as "really old childhood memories" because it was Sonic 3D Blast, but I remember "Hey Julie" was my choice for Green Grove Act 2, and I didn't get that album until 2004. Damn. I'd like to think I had more important things to do at that stage of my life.

THEbigLANDMAN · Post by **THEbigLANDMAN** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 8:14 am

Hybrid wrote:I've owned Sonic R PC for so long, but I never got the music to work. In fact, I'm fairly certain that the music files aren't even present on the CD. Its a legit copy, too.

I don't want to hijack the thread or anything, but is there any way to download the songs and trick the game into playing them?

Is that one of those "Explosive" or something editions that are very cheap? I bought Last Bronx from that collection and it didn't have CD audio tracks so no music -.- luckily I also have the Saturn version

Opa-Opa · Post by **Opa-Opa** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 4:04 pm

I hate that cheap stuff. I bought a musicless Rayman Gold for PC. That sucked enormously because I love Rayman music.

Post by **Segaholic2** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 5:56 pm

Later legit copies of Sonic R PC (generally the ones bundled into packs of other games) did not include the audio tracks. Who knows why.

Zeta · Post by **Zeta** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 7:22 pm

I tried to trick the PC version of Sonic R into playing Mp3s of the music tracks by swapping out the Ring sound effect for Diamond in the Sky. It didn't work very well.

Hybrid · Post by **Hybrid** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 1:25 am

Thanks for the responses, but I'm afraid I still don't have a clue. I'm looking at the files on the CD, and there aren't any "tracks" at all. The closest thing I can find is in the "SOUND" folder, which only contains a sound-effects folder (filled with lots of .wavs). No real music at all.

The game still has an option for playing music when I run it, so I'm guessing its looking somewhere for the tracks (and just not finding them). I've always thought the trick would be to make a folder for music and put the songs I want in there, but I've already been pretty rubbish at trying to manipulate computer functions and could never get it to work.

Post by **Segaholic2** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 1:36 am

Did you not read my post? Your copy probably doesn't have the music tracks at all.

Cuckooguy · Post by **Cuckooguy** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 2:02 am

Hybrid wrote:Thanks for the responses, but I'm afraid I still don't have a clue. I'm looking at the files on the CD, and there aren't any "tracks" at all. The closest thing I can find is in the "SOUND" folder, which only contains a sound-effects folder (filled with lots of .wavs). No real music at all.

The game still has an option for playing music when I run it, so I'm guessing its looking somewhere for the tracks (and just not finding them). I've always thought the trick would be to make a folder for music and put the songs I want in there, but I've already been pretty rubbish at trying to manipulate computer functions and could never get it to work.

Yeah, that's a very odd problem, I wish I knew why that happens. If you want to, maybe you can try swapping the game CD out while you're playing and pop in a random music CD before you start a level.

Hybrid · Post by **Hybrid** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 2:28 am

Segaholic2 wrote:Did you not read my post? Your copy probably doesn't have the music tracks at all.

Yeah, I took that in. What I'm wondering now is if the game looks for them anyway (since it doesn't appear the coding has changed for their removal). In which case it should be possible to trick it into playing tracks I tell it to, assuming my thinking is correct.

It just always annoyed me the only thing I could hear was the repetitive "step.wav" while playing.

Isuka · Post by **Isuka** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 5:20 am

I remember doing the same thing with a copy of X-Men: Children of the Atom. It was in a really strange CD bundled with Battle Arena Toshinden and Street Fighter Alpha without it's tracks, so... from time to time I'd play it to the beat of Nilsen's Sonic CD. :P

Opa-Opa · Post by **Opa-Opa** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 5:14 pm

Yeah. I used to play Virtua Fighter PC with Metallica's Reload popped in the drive.

Hybrid · Post by **Hybrid** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 7:39 pm

If anyone owns Sonic R (with music) and can tell me how the file folders are set out, I might have one last crack at getting it to play music. Worth a shot, I guess.

Cuckooguy · Post by **Cuckooguy** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 8:04 pm

Even though I know your efforts will be futile, I have decided to show you all the file folders in my PC Sonic R (which definitely plays music).

<img src="http://www.vimscape.com/temp/sonicr.gif">

DackAttac · Post by **DackAttac** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 8:05 pm

I have a copy in a stack of old games in my parents' computer room. I could hook you up when I'm there after Thanksgiving.

EDIT - Woop. Nevermind.

Shadow Hog · Post by **Shadow Hog** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 8:07 pm

The music isn't IN any file folders. They're CD tracks. If you put it in, say, a Sega Saturn (or a CD player of choice, whatever), Track 01 would be data, while Track 02 onward would be the music you're looking for. If those tracks don't exist, you do not have the music.

You can, however, take everything that's presently on the CD and rip it to a BIN or something. Then, download the soundtrack (I'm pretty sure most rips will keep the tracklist in the proper order) and use a CUE or something to burn them as additional audio tracks to your one data track. That might be sufficient to get the game working properly with music...

Post by **Segaholic2** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 8:14 pm

Yeah, I was about to suggest that.

Hybrid · Post by **Hybrid** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:54 pm

Seems like more trouble than I originally wanted to go to. That's a very roundabout way to get the damn thing to play music.

I might try it anyway. Thanks for the help.

DackAttac · Post by **DackAttac** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:42 pm

Or you could burn a CD, put it in a CD player, put it on repeat, and listen the track for the course you're on as you play. I mean, really, that's hardly anything removed from the real experience. Jacques did much better work on 3D Blast.

Shadow Hog · Post by **Shadow Hog** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 7:29 am

Eh. If you turn the vocals off, they're quite comparable, and both quite excellent.