Sonic the Hedgehog demo on XBL Marketplace

FlashTHD · Post by **FlashTHD** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 4:24 pm

Esrever wrote:You probably didn't read my new favourite run-on sentence.

The disaster critically wounded Elise's father, Duke Soleanna, though before he died, he begged his daughter never to cry for the key to unleashing the great force is Elise's tears and despair.

If you're telling me that was on the site, then it's localization and marketing's problem, not the game's.

Post by **Esrever** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 4:40 pm

Oh, the bad grammar is definitely their fault, sure. But the moronic story concept isn't.

Maybe Eggman will unleash the power of the Flames by giving Elise a papercut!

Luckett X · Post by **Luckett X** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 4:43 pm

really Saz, if you still believe that Silver concept art is real, youre pretty borderline retarded. All the signs are there for you, full render of Elise, the Silver art is in badly resized gif mode as compared to the rest that isnt, the artwork is shoddy, the shading style sloppily copied. Its just so god damned obvious to everyone with half a brain that isnt trying to prove everything theyre provided with is real. Yeah that document is real, but not ALL of it is. You got slightly punk'd.

As for recent developments, I am really liking the music on the game. Some of it even has a Panzer Dragoon feel to it, which is obviously a big win for me. Annnnnnd thats about all the positive I can take from it. The rest is as ever, bilge I do not wish to stomach.

Shadow Hog · Post by **Shadow Hog** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 4:47 pm

Esrever wrote:Maybe Eggman will unleash the power of the Flames by giving Elise a papercut!

Actually, according to a topic I read at SoaH...

...the Flames are released in Last Story, where Sonic... <b>dies</b>. For real. Of course they revive him with the Chaos Emeralds later, but it's enough to get Elise to cry.

Incidentally, apparently Iblis and Mephiles, when fused, are Solaris.

FlashTHD · Post by **FlashTHD** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 5:00 pm

Esrever wrote:Oh, the bad grammar is definitely their fault, sure. But the moronic story concept isn't.

I've seen worse.

James McGeachie · Post by **James McGeachie** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 5:14 pm

So apparently Sonic dies, Elise cries releasing IBLIS or something, the gay crystal hedgehog merges with the wierd fire demon and Sonic is brought back to life with the power of the chaos emeralds (obviously) to commence yet another queer final fight with Sonic, Silver and Shadow in super forms against a ridiculously over the top boss.

I hope no one seriously gives a shit that this garbage isn't in spoiler tags.

Jack Bz · Post by **Jack Bz** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 5:38 pm

Shadow Hog · Post by **Shadow Hog** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 5:50 pm

More thoughts on this all.

I don't think the plot twist here would be so bad, if:

A) they killed some character who'd be A-OK to keep dead
B) it wasn't all just a setup for another lame Super Sonic fight.

Apparently Elise is the one who finally defeats Solaris, though I think the Super trio demon-whacking helped that out considerably. This resets the timeline for this particular title, though, so Sonic and Elise never met. So while you'll have to endure SonicXElise in this game, they've ensured that won't be the case later on in the series.

Oh, did I mention that Mephiles was the one who killed Sonic?

Zeta · Post by **Zeta** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 5:51 pm

I am embaressed for the whole franchise.

Sazpaimon · Post by **Sazpaimon** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 6:09 pm

Luckett X wrote:really Saz, if you still believe that Silver concept art is real, youre pretty borderline retarded. All the signs are there for you, full render of Elise, the Silver art is in badly resized gif mode as compared to the rest that isnt, the artwork is shoddy, the shading style sloppily copied. Its just so god damned obvious to everyone with half a brain that isnt trying to prove everything theyre provided with is real. Yeah that document is real, but not ALL of it is. You got slightly punk'd.

As for recent developments, I am really liking the music on the game. Some of it even has a Panzer Dragoon feel to it, which is obviously a big win for me. Annnnnnd thats about all the positive I can take from it. The rest is as ever, bilge I do not wish to stomach.

Sigh, I didn't want it to come to this, as I haven't fully gotten all my info settled yet, but I contacted one of the artists for the game (I'm not going to reveal who until he gives me the OK, which is why I've been holding off this until now), and he told me that he has in fact seen this art before, but can't recall who made it (He said that he *THINKS* that the line style is simmilar to the ones who made the Sonic Riders art, but he wasn't sure on that.), and he was going to get back to me once he's sure. That's all I'm gonna say on that part, I'll update once he gives me another reply.

I don't want to start another debate here, so that's all I'll say on that matter.

FlashTHD · Post by **FlashTHD** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 6:13 pm

I'll put it back in spoiler tags if that's what's demanded by the majority, though.

Please do. I have a burning, itching urge to stab you right now and it'd help to soothe it.

(overly cynical and silly interpretation of spoilers)

I hope no one seriously gives a shit that this garbage isn't in spoiler tags.

Aww, too bad.

Shadow Hog · Post by **Shadow Hog** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 6:29 pm

Soothing relief applied (directly to the forehead).

James McGeachie · Post by **James McGeachie** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:32 pm

Sazpaimon wrote:Sigh, I didn't want it to come to this, as I haven't fully gotten all my info settled yet, but I contacted one of the artists for the game (I'm not going to reveal who until he gives me the OK, which is why I've been holding off this until now), and he told me that he has in fact seen this art before, but can't recall who made it (He said that he *THINKS* that the line style is simmilar to the ones who made the Sonic Riders art, but he wasn't sure on that.), and he was going to get back to me once he's sure. That's all I'm gonna say on that part, I'll update once he gives me another reply.

I don't want to start another debate here, so that's all I'll say on that matter.

You know I honestly wouldn't fucking care if the director of the game came out and said the art is official, I still wouldn't believe him. For anyone who isn't BLIND one glance should be enough to see that it just fucking isn't.

For anyone who thinks the style of that picture is similar to the Riders artwork...well, I honestly don't even know what to say for that.

Frieza2000 · Post by **Frieza2000** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 8:13 pm

After all that's been revealed, it wouldn't surprise me at all anymore if that art was official. It may not be concept art in the strictest sense, as Esrever described, but I'm pretty convinced that it's real now. Seriously, why put up a real script and then insert ONE fake and uninteresting picture? What the hell kind of hoax would that be?

So, now we can wish people back to life with the emeralds? Hooray immortality!

Post by **Delphine** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 8:20 pm

MY GOD WHO CARES ABOUT THE HOAX OR NON-HOAX OR WHATEVER IT IS CAN WE JUST DROP IT PLEASE THANK YOU.

Wooduck51 · Post by **Wooduck51** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 8:21 pm

For something other than pointless bickering;

Some possible insights on Shadow's involvement with the government from the ShTH expert mode, which is set some time after the main stroy.

Quote one: President,

Hello Shadow, news of your training has reached top brass and it is impressive...."
Secretary:"Mr. President, you're late for your tea time with the Japanese prime minister."
President: "Oh! allright, keep up the good work Shadow

Quote two: GUN Commander,

Shadow, it's me. First off.....errrr....well....sorry about the other day.....
Actually I just became a Grandfather last week and I was thinking about having you over. I know training can be rough, but it will just make you stronger, now head for goal ring!"

Quote three: President,

Shadow? it's me again. I apologize for the mess, I've been planning reconstruction."
Secretary: "Mr. President it's time for your karaoke party with the Minister of finance."
President:"I almost forgot, I have to go Shadow, I'll speak to you later."

Strange I must say, I am five stages away from being done with expert mode, wonder what other oddities will spring up.

MiraiTails · Post by **MiraiTails** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 8:51 pm

Shadow Hog wrote: Actually, according to a topic I read at SoaH...

...the Flames are released in Last Story, where Sonic... <b>dies</b>. For real. Of course they revive him with the Chaos Emeralds later...

If this is true, than the Sonic Universe now has another thing in common with Dragonball.

So while you'll have to endure SonicXElise in this game, they've ensured that won't be the case later on in the series.

Sonic the Hedgehog (SA2) wrote: Adios/Sayonara, Shadow the Hedgehog.

FlashTHD · Post by **FlashTHD** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 9:23 pm

Wooduck51 wrote:Strange I must say, I am five stages away from being done with expert mode, wonder what other oddities will spring up.

Kill the volume while Cosmic Fall is loading, before Cheese subjects you to violent, unavoidable ear rape.

Sazpaimon · Post by **Sazpaimon** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 11:08 pm

FlashTHD wrote:
Wooduck51 wrote:Strange I must say, I am five stages away from being done with expert mode, wonder what other oddities will spring up.
Kill the volume while Cosmic Fall is loading, before Cheese subjects you to violent, unavoidable ear rape.

Or just turn off the console, that entire level is a bitch on hard mode

Zeta · Post by **Zeta** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 1:27 am

Silver lives light years in the future

A world where psychic hedgehogs evolved from men?!

Hybrid · Post by **Hybrid** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 2:31 am

Someone pointed out earlier that they're liking this game's music, and for the most part I'd have to agree. Its by no means top-quality music, but its the best we've had since SA1. I really enjoy track 1 and 3 on the game site, 2 is a bit weird though.

Forza Johnman · Post by **Forza Johnman** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 4:23 am

Boss Images
More Boss Images and Robot Images *potential final boss spoiler*

I like the music. Its different. Track 3 (Crisis City?) reminds me of Metallic Madness. Don't know why.

Wooduck51 · Post by **Wooduck51** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 6:14 am

So will the next game in the series be "Shadow the grave digger"
wherein you hunt for the body of Maria in hopes of using the chaos emeralds to revive her?

The bosses and badniks look nice, though some are reminiscent of the giants from ShTH.

(...) · Post by **(...)** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 8:22 am

Someone pointed out earlier that they're liking this game's music, and for the most part I'd have to agree. Its by no means top-quality music, but its the best we've had since SA1. I really enjoy track 1 and 3 on the game site, 2 is a bit weird though.

Am I the only one who thinks all three of those tunes sounded the same?

FlashTHD · Post by **FlashTHD** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 9:30 am

Sazpaimon wrote:
FlashTHD wrote:
Wooduck51 wrote:Strange I must say, I am five stages away from being done with expert mode, wonder what other oddities will spring up.
Kill the volume while Cosmic Fall is loading, before Cheese subjects you to violent, unavoidable ear rape.
Or just turn off the console, that entire level is a bitch on hard mode

Phht. I could barely tell the difference outside of a few enemies to use as stepping stones and platforms taken away. There are tons of shortcuts past the harder parts of the stage and I only died once clearing it (on the path of rotating platforms that used to lead to a Secret Key). Expert Mode's pathetic all-around. It's like the level designers (Iizuka) quit caring after the third row of stages.

Boss Images

Funny looking things. His dragon mecha looks a bit like the Egg Viper...

Edit: I knew that thing looked familiar! It's the cut Sky Chase boss from SA1!