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Woah! Disney used to be hardcore!

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 2:11 pm
by Zeta
I was looking through issues of "Disney Adventures" from the early '90s and stumbled upon a Halloween October issue.

It featured a short story, WITH illustrations, called "Bunny Soup". It's about this little girl who has her crazy grandpa move in with her.

He kills and cooks her pet rabbit.

Then, because she's dressed up as a bunny for a school project, he kills and cooks HER, too - AND serves her to her mother.

In Disney Adventures, a magazing aimed at 10-year old children.

My GOD! The magazine would get their asses sued off of them these days if they did something like that.

On a similar note - why the fuck do people like Mickey Mouse? He's like a human version of Paris Hilton, only without the boobs - never done anything interesting or of value. People just like him because people are expected to like him. Moochy mouse.

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 2:27 pm
by Esrever
That story scared the FUCK out of me back then. I mean look, I even still remember it!

Stranger still, it was actually written by one of their readers. It was a scary story contest, and that was the winning story! I think they probably did get some complaints, because in subsequent years the winning stories were much, much tamer.

The whole magazine went on a massive downward slide after the first couple of years. These days, the magazine is almost entirely about movies and television, but once upon a time, it had actual articles about stuff like animals, volcanoes, and other things that weren't celebrities or Disney cartoons. :/

Mickey Mouse used to be cool.

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 2:28 pm
by Grant
Zeta wrote:He's like a human version of Paris Hilton, only without the boobs
I assume you're being ironic here, because Paris Hilton has no figure at all, let alone any boobs. She is the ugliest person that has ever lived and I'll never understand why anyone could ever consider her attractive. She has the head of a rodent on the body of 10 year old boy, not to mention one of the most repulsive personalities in the history of the world. I hate, hate, hate Paris Hilton more than anyone has ever hated anyone.

Anyway, it's kind of interesting that everyone has a favorite Bugs Bunny cartoon that they can easily remember, but I'd be hard pressed to even think of a memorable Mickey Mouse short.

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 2:32 pm
by Dunjohn
They let him slide. They let him become an icon rather than a character. They let him lose all trace of personality, and sorta become a Disney badge.

I think they swore to change that around his big birthday a few years back. So far, though, I've yet to see any improvement, aside maybe from trapping him in hell at the end of Kingdom Hearts.

My brother says there's something I'm not quite getting about that, but I prefer my version.

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 3:03 pm
by Zeta
Even when they have him guest-star on cartoons and videogames, they keep his face covered.

OF course! It all makes sense. Paul/Mickey is dead, and they're covering it up!

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 3:35 pm
by BlazeHedgehog
I dunno. I caught that "Mickey's Twice Upon a Christmas" thing, and I was a little impressed with the amount of personality they embued him with. I mean, Mickey Mouse was <i>pissed off</i>, and <i>shouting</i> at Pluto, and it wasn't for a joke or anything. He was just being a short-tempered ass. It was kind of awesome.

Although, really, with that kind of voice, even when he's pissed off, he sounds stupid as hell.

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 4:11 pm
by Spazz
Some people claim that Donald Duck says "<a href="http://www.snopes.com/disney/films/donald.htm">Fuck you!</a>" in a really old Disneq cartoon.

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 4:20 pm
by Esrever
In the older Mickey cartoons, the guy had a sort of mischevious edge. But as Disney got more and more popular, they grew less and less inclined to have Mickey do anything even remotely unfriendly. So the mouse was gradually drained of personality, shifting into more of a straight man role paired with other, less "moral" characters like Donald or Pluto. And that shift happened pretty darn early, too... basically, it was only shortly after he moved to colour that Mickey stopped being interesting.

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 5:49 pm
by PBJClock
Dunjohn wrote: trapping him in hell at the end of Kingdom Hearts.
he was trapd in Kingdom Hhearts

not hell
Zeta wrote:Even when they have him guest-star on cartoons and videogames, they keep his face covered.

OF course! It all makes sense. Paul/Mickey is dead, and they're covering it up!
a conspiracy? :confused:

Edit:10th post!!!!

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 5:56 pm
by Esrever
Wow, 10!

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 6:13 pm
by Grant
Who knows, he might make it to 11.

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 7:08 pm
by Baba O'Reily
This is my impressed face.

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 9:28 pm
by Ngangbius
In addition to what Esrever said, Mickey Mouse still keeps his mischevious, adventurous side in many of the overseas Disney comic books. From what little I saw and heard of them, they seem much more entertaining than most of the 40's Mickey Mouse cartoons where he's usually in dull, domesticated roles.

However, Disney tried to give Mickey his edge back in animation through the shorts that aired on Mickey Mouseworks and later, House of Mouse.

There was one cartoon in the 40's called Symphony Hour where the conductor, Mickey pulled an actual gun on Donald since he wanted to quit in the middle of the orchestra's performance. Pretty hilarious and a rare action for the character at the time, but I remember that scene was usually cut when Disney Channel used to air their theatrical shorts on the network.

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 10:04 pm
by chriscaffee
I remember some sketch where there was a music contest and Mickey was one of the judges. Donald Duck messed up his rendition of Twinkle Twinkle little star so he busted out an American-180 submachine gun (conceiled in a violin case) and started laying waste to everything in site. The audience ducked out of the way and he missed everything and finally these mechanical hand things that removed the rejects from the stage managed to grab Donald and shut him in the violin case. Goofy was the last contestant and some sort of weird tractor machine that had like ten different instruments, but it went into overdrive and exploded or something.

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 11:09 pm
by Delphine
<a href="http://www.dontfeedthewriter.com/11t/Mi ... ">Greatest Mickey comic strip ever.</a>

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 12:46 am
by Green Gibbon!
Do you realize I was Walt Disney in my previous life?

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 12:51 am
by Cuckooguy
Was Walt also a ninja?

Also, Mickey Mouse Works and House of Mouse sucks. Well, actually, there were a couple of shorts in Mickey Mouse Works that I thought were cool, but something happened to it along the way; like somewhere around the time the quality of animation seemed to dip down in quality. But I like how they dug up forgotten characters as some sort of eye candy and a nod to people who know who said characters were, or stuff like Donald living in a boat, which I thought was cool. But they totally screwed up Daisy.

Actually, I think the only shorts I ever liked from MMWorks was the Mickey Mouse car one, and the Halloween one with Donald's nephews.

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 1:41 am
by Esrever
That newspaper comic was drawn by Floyd Gottfredson. Gottfredson was a genius, and his Mickey Mouse comics are fantastic. He kind of turned it into an adventure/mystery serial, especially once America entered the Cold War era. Mickey Mouse Vs. the Phantom Blot is a must read, if you can find it online somewhere!

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 4:23 am
by Omni Hunter
The Phantom Blot!? WTF!? I reckon Mickey shot Bambi's mum, haha.
But seriously, Donald kicked arse.

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 6:56 am
by j-man
I don't get the strip that Del posted. I agree with Grant wholeheartedly about Paris Hilton. I am now ending the post.

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 9:07 am
by Omni Hunter
Why use a fucking shotgun when you can use pistol to the head (which is cheaper and easier) and what's with the FUCKING CUCKOO!!?

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 9:50 am
by Seymour
He's like a human version of Paris Hilton, only without the boobs
Paris Hilton has boobs!?

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 11:44 am
by Zeta
That newspaper comic was drawn by Floyd Gottfredson. Gottfredson was a genius, and his Mickey Mouse comics are fantastic. He kind of turned it into an adventure/mystery serial, especially once America entered the Cold War era. Mickey Mouse Vs. the Phantom Blot is a must read, if you can find it online somewhere!
There was also a pretty kick-ass Mickey Comic book series published in the late '80s featuring Mickey fighting an evil penguin who tried to freeze the world, Pete with some sort of sumer-ray, and some badguy mastermind I can't remember. Might've been XXX. But anywys, the point is that the author kept it totally in contuniuty with Godfredson's comics.

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 11:51 am
by Esrever
Emril Eagle was the mastermind! Oh man, I remember those books! :D

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 12:45 pm
by Delphine
j-man wrote:I don't get the strip that Del posted. I agree with Grant wholeheartedly about Paris Hilton. I am now ending the post.
Omni Hunter wrote:Why use a fucking shotgun when you can use pistol to the head (which is cheaper and easier) and what's with the FUCKING CUCKOO!!?
Okay, let me explain: Mickey wants to kill himself because Minnie doesn't love him. The clock goes "cuckoo" and he's all, you're right, this is crazy, that bitch ain't worth this.