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"Gyakuten Kenji". Literally, "Turnabout Prosecutor".

Apparently it takes place during the first game, before that whole "Prosecutor Edgeworth chooses death" nonsense.

This was... unexpected, no? Still, it's a spin on things which I'm all for.

Never in my life did I wish to see (or even imagine) a LEGO version of Leia in her incredibly revealing metal bikini.

I mean look at it, it's not even all the way ON.

It doesn't help that she's winking either. I'm gonna go cry in a corner.

Co-starring Gillian Seed? Well, score.

He didn't literally die, y'know, he just meant... in a figurative... sense. Or something, he's still alive as of Gyakuten Saiban 3. And still prosecuting. A bit more chill, maybe, but y'know. Still doing his job.

How was the one on DS? I remember hearing the staff was different, which struck a warning gong in my head so I steered clear of it. Plus, I can't imagine playing Gyakuten anything without my dear Mayoi.

Pssh, I've played all of the Ace Attorneys, so I'm quite aware that he never died. It was still nonsense, and this game still takes place before it (back when Edgeworth was a bit of an asshole).

I've also played Apollo Justice, for that matter. It's actually very good, despite the different cast. My only problem is that it's too easy, and therefore, too short. Trials and Tribulations took me a month; Apollo Justice took me a week. Music's the best in the series, though, easily.

I finished Apollo Justice recently. I probably would've bought it myself if it were around 15-20 bucks but I got it for a birthday present so I played it earlier than I thought I would.

Anyway, I think it's a good game, and when it comes to Capcom, change is definitely a good thing. My opinion is 3>1>2 and the 4th one is about the same quality as the 1st, but maybe a little higher. The game is somewhat easy, but I think that's a good thing, because when the games were stupid hard it usually was because of those hated moments in the 1st three games that made you present things you'd never think of presenting unless you were thinking the same way the writers were. The 4th game is the only one I never even used a FAQ on, which I think is a good sign (though there were about three times when I was tempted).

Characters are pretty memorable, though probably not as memorable as the original cast, but the original cast is a tough act to follow; witnesses are still as quirky and hilarious as they were in the first 3 so nothing's changed there. Defendants are unlike any defendants from the first three games; that is to say, they've all got a certain... characteristic that gives defending defendants a different flavor. I know I was very vague on said characteristic, and people who've played the game already might even be confused at my statement, but I don't want to spoil anything.

In the end, I still think it's a good installment. I wouldn't call the series over the hill yet.

Anyway, concerning the Turnabout Prosecutor spinoff, I'm a bit blah about the third person perspective but Gumshoe's in it and he's my favorite character in the series.

Wow, a new Ace Attorney game, and a Homestar Runner Wii game, all in one 24-hour period. This is getting exciting. I'm especially liking the whole "you actually get to see your character now" aspect. I might just have to get a DS Lite for this; my screen's already all screwed up to the point where recalibrating does nothing.

The 4th game is the only one I never even used a FAQ on, which I think is a good sign (though there were about three times when I was tempted).

Ditto. Well, I almost got through the "real" cases of AA1 (the first four cases), but I got some names mixed up late in 1-3.

This is made of awesome. I recently found out that the Ace Attorney makes some success amongst old school adventure game lovers. This Edgeworth game seems to be even more like those good old maniac-mansioning days.

LEGO Edgeworth: The Complete Saga? Damn sold.


I can't believe I never played a Phoenix Wright game thus far. I really need to do that. :(

I only noticed just now that GG! censored Gumshoe to Itonoko in my previous post. But anyway my logic is that if I played Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney, I'll call him whatever that version called him, but if I played Gyakuten Saiban, I'd call him whatever that version called him. For all I know the script might be totally different and he gives vibes that he's actually a sadistic pedophile in the Japanese version. Too bad I didn't play that version since I don't read Japanese.

BUT I suppose the edit makes sense since Turnabout Prosecutor doesn't have an announced US release while Apollo Justice has and for whatever reason he didn't edit that to Gyakuten Saiban 4, so in this case that is Itonoko and not Gumshoe in the scans.

Or maybe he simply forgot to edit Apollo Justice.

Hopefully we finally learn what kind of injury he had that was so serious that he had to leave a bandage on his left chin all the time. Maybe there's a clue in there worth investigating.

Anyway, to give this post a point, here's a new trailer:

http://www.famitsu.com/fwtv/?51214777

Recurring shaving accident? He seems like the type who would have that kind of problem.

The long and the short of it is that Phoenix is really still the main character in the fourth game. Once you realize that, the game doesn't feel any weirder than any of the other times the series made you play as other characters.

The new characters are all fun and the "big" plot of the game is really entertaining. But the third trial -- a relative stand alone -- is pretty lame, and unfortunately a sliver of it's lameness winds up returning right at the very end of the otherwise engaging final trial. (And it looks like it may return in the sequel as well.) I don't think the game was any more flawed than the previous two, but the ending does make me a bit worried about the inevitable sequel. As a result, I'm more excited about this new spin off than the next Apollo game.

I always wonder why is it that the third trial in every game is the weakest trial in that game. Is there some tradition in their development team that says the third trial has to be the weakest trial?

That said, I didn't think the third trial was particularly lame; the weakest in the game for sure, but not lame. But I did find that particular sliver of a story thread you mentioned to be a bit lame. It kind of felt like forced continuity to me. I'm not particularly excited about Turnabout spinoffs more than the next Gyakuten Saiban, but then again the games have never made me excited to play them; but, I do hope the next sequel will do something to shake things up a bit, like maybe play as Phoenix for half the game or bring back some older characters.

Cuckooguy wrote:I only noticed just now that GG! censored Gumshoe to Itonoko in my previous post. But anyway my logic is that if I played Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney, I'll call him whatever that version called him, but if I played Gyakuten Saiban, I'd call him whatever that version called him. For all I know the script might be totally different and he gives vibes that he's actually a sadistic pedophile in the Japanese version. Too bad I didn't play that version since I don't read Japanese.

Oh ho ho... well, crap.

Gumshoe:
Hey!
You're a cute kid.

Pearl:
...

Gumshoe:
Ha ha ha.
I'm not scary. Honest!

Phoenix:
(Wow, I never knew Gumshoe
liked kids...)

Gumshoe:
H-Hey! I know! I'll show you
something cool! How's this?
It's a real, genuine pistol...

Phoenix:
D-Detective Gumshoe!!
What are you doing showing
her something that dangerous!

Gumshoe:
Oh, sorry...

Why doesn't he just censor Phoenix Wright to 成歩堂 龍?

Yeah, my posts got the edit, too. How annoying. Guess this is what I get for frequenting a forum run by an otaku!

I like how he didn't even handle P.P.A.'s post correctly. "Naruhodo Wright game" indeed. If he really wanted to be correct in context, it'd have been "Gyakuten Saiban"...

I have no idea what you people are talking about. I have done nothing.

"I did not have textual relations with that post!"

Honestly, I don't know what happened. I played the first PW, liked it, checked the news on when the sequel was coming out... then lost interest. And now I find they're shitting them out like Cocoa-Puff-esque dingleberries on porkchop night (—although that's probably unique to my particular gastrointestinal system), and I feel so left behind. =|

What happened's called Capcom.

Phoenix Wright is one of the few series that actually fits well with Capcom's sequelitis. It's an ongoing serialized narrative, like a television show or comic book.

GG!, these amalgamations of Japanese and English ("Naruhodo Wright" is completely wrong!) are abominations. Please set it to convert both names into a proper Naruhodo Ryuuichi, taking into account the proper order of given and family names in Japanese for when the names are used seperately.

Or how about, I dunno, not censoring at all?

Or, if you're gonna censor something, you might as well go all the way.

ACE ATTORNEY
PHOENIX WRIGHT
MAYA FEY
MIA FEY
FRANZISKA VON KARMA
THE JUDGE
MILES EDGEWORTH
DICK GUMSHOE
LARRY BUTZ
WINSTON PAYNE
WENDY OLDBAG
MANFRED VON KARMA
PEARL FEY

Really, the English title is a pretty dang good adaptation of the Japanese one. They swap a mythical bird for a mythical reptile as his given name, keep a lawyerly pun (being "right" I guess) for his family name, and the bird we can no longer mention anymore is also know for being reborn in fire, thus the "turnabout" in "Gyakuten."

I think it's a way better name than anyone named "Naruhodo." I read that he was originally going to be "Naruhodo Souka" which is even more groan-inducingly stupid.

Even Miles "Edge Worth" (intentional) is a pretty good adaptation from Mitsurugi, both names pertaining to swords. You have to respect the translation team for trying!

G.Silver wrote:"Naruhodo Souka"

</chuckles>

Someone should put a filter to replace "Zero Gravity" with "Shooting Star Story". Or, alternatively, get out of his/ her house more often.

Green Gibbon! wrote:I have no idea what you people are talking about. I have done nothing.

Of course not. Now. The swear filter he rigged up is more than happy to do his hush work for him.