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Sonic 1 made in America rumour?
Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 1:52 am
by Koosh Koosh!
Any idea where this came from? I've seen it banded about on the internet (mainly as "proof" for the Robotnik > Eggman name theory), but is there any actual basis for it?
Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 1:53 am
by Segaholic2
Do you have any examples? The only reason I can think of is a misinterpretation of the fact that Sonic was designed with an American audience in mind.
Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 1:58 am
by Koosh Koosh!
Segaholic2 wrote:Do you have any examples? The only reason I can think of is a misinterpretation of the fact that Sonic was designed with an American audience in mind.
PACHUKA from the Sonic Cult cites it as reason for the Sonic franchise not originally being Japanese in his 'article', "The Segasonic Myth".
"Sonic was a Japanese made product" - Because he was made by Japanese people? Sorry, but it was developed in the United States by Japanese people. If a game coming out of Japan was made by an all American team, it wouldn't be considered an American game.
http://www.sonic-cult.org/articles/segasonic/
It's also banded about on Wikipedia (snnrk) a lot for some reason. I just want to know where this fool-hardy idea came from and whether there is any truth to the matter.
Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 7:49 am
by Popcorn
I'm pretty sure if it was true we of all people would know about it. Interrogate the source.
Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 8:00 am
by Tsuyoshi-kun
I thought Sonic 1 was the only 16-bit Sonic game made entirely in Japan.
Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 9:06 am
by Shadow Hog
<i>Sonic CD</i> was, too. I'd already edited the Wikipedia article to mention that... hopefully nobody reverted it already.
Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 3:53 pm
by G.Silver
I remember a time when somebody popped up on some forum saying he worked at Sega of America and had a bit to do with how Sonic 1 was made, like he said it was his idea to have a 1up at 100 rings, and supposedly the US name Robotnik was an amalgamation of his wife's, daughter's, and pet dog's names all rolled into one, and some other stuff regarding localization (like how they weren't given a story to work from). The whole thing seemed pretty dubious but that's the extent of anything I know/heard about Sonic 1 having any US development, and it points to it being developed entirely in Japan.
Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 3:56 pm
by Brazillian Cara
G.Silver wrote:...and supposedly the US name Robotnik was an amalgamation of his wife's, daughter's, and pet dog's names all rolled into one...
ROBerta, OTaria and NIKel?
Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 4:04 pm
by Light Speed
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard, unless his wife, daughter and dogs names are Robot, Nik, and the dog had no name.
Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 5:53 pm
by Green Gibbon!
To my knowledge, Sonic 1 is one of the only 3 major games in the series (the others being Sonic CD and Adventure) that were developed mainly or entirely in Japan. I haven't seen any evidence to suggest otherwise.
Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 6:01 pm
by FlashTHD
Pachuka was a tester for Sega for a little while, so I would guess he picked up that "Sonic 1 made in U.S.A" factoid from somebody while there. Not that i'm vouching for its' credibility.
Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 6:05 pm
by Light Speed
Well let's ask that one bloke. You know, the classy one.
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 3:06 pm
by Omni Hunter
Light Speed wrote:That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard, unless his wife, daughter and dogs names are Robot, Nik, and the dog had no name.
I heard Robotnik was a russian word or inspired by a russian word. The idea of the name being an analgm of three names is obviously piss-poor.
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 3:15 pm
by Light Speed
Why do people insist of making crap up when it is so obviously just the word Robot with an ending thrown on?
I'll kill them all!
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 4:42 pm
by Delphine
-nik is a Russian suffix, so you're sort of right, Omni. One of <a href="
http://www.randomhouse.com/wotd/index.p ... 80601">the meanings of -nik</a> is an "enthusiast of the thing indicated by the initial element", so Robotnik would be a robot enthusiast. And that's your language lesson of the day.
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 5:44 pm
by Shadow Hog
Light Speed wrote:I'll kill them all!
Can't you just
knock them all down?
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 12:44 am
by Keith Stack
From Wikipedia:
Robotnik is the generic Polish word for a worker. As such, it was used as a title by a number of leftist magazines throughout 19th and 20th centuries.
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 12:02 pm
by Omni Hunter
Now that does sound familiar. It might be Polish I was thinking of and not Russian. I want a copy of that magasine though.
Either way, why go too deep into a name anyway, the only thing that really matters is what hit's you first, like Sonic refering to speed and Robotnik featuring the word Robot.
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 12:19 pm
by Brazillian Cara
I think it was also the name of a play from the same area. Something about a scientist creating robots, and being killed by them- the machines end up ruling the world. Sort of a predecessor to the Terminator series.
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 1:09 pm
by Sniffnoy
Brazillian Cara wrote:I think it was also the name of a play from the same area. Something about a scientist creating robots, and being killed by them- the machines end up ruling the world. Sort of a predecessor to the Terminator series.
Rossum's Universal Robots, you're thinking of, the first use of the word "robot". Though I think it's safe to say that the name "Robotnik" comes from "robot" + "-nik" rather than directly from the Polish "robotnik".
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 8:21 pm
by Neo
Robotnik rhymes with Sonic.
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 8:39 pm
by Delphine
Robotnik is the name of a breakfast cereal in Malaysia.
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 1:22 pm
by Omni Hunter
Robotnik is the name of my left testicle.
Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 2:08 am
by FlightPrevails
Neo Chaotikal wrote:Robotnik rhymes with Sonic.
Great, now I have a visual image of Hobbes saying that while Calvin plays
Shadow while simultaneously throwing his controller of choice at the screen.
No, wait, let me rephrase that: while throwing his PS2 controller at the screen. The game was playable on the Gamecube, worth the storyline. On the PS2, it just plain sucked. I liked it on Gamecube, albeit its faults, however, on PS2, I wanted to bludgeon Yugi Naka with a metal pole.