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Square is rushing themselves again

Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 6:07 pm
by jenkins
FF not XII

I'm more than a little surprised by the fact that this is already being announced...does anyone have more info on it?

Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 6:19 pm
by Protodude
Yeah, there's actually going to be three different Final Fantasy XIII's. Two for PS3, one for a mobile system.

Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 6:23 pm
by Popcorn
Why two for PS3? Anyone got any info?

I like the look of it, anyway. But then I like the look of every FF game. And then I hate them.

Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 6:31 pm
by Protodude
Square Enix Announces a Trio of Final Fantasy XIII games
2:02 Final announcement! For PS3! E3 is so damn exciting sometimes. What is it?!


FINAL FANTASY XIII. FINAL FANTASY XIII. They pulled a serious bait and switch on us. Sword-and-gun-wielding heroine who looks like Yuna, flipping her way around a high-tech, futuristic world. No idea what it was until the end when that NAME popped up. Yoshinori Kitase directing! This is the guy behind all the best ones--VI, VII, VIII, X. Be still my heart.


2:08 Sorry, I jumped the gun--Mr. Kitase was merely presenting. Motomu Toriyama will direct the game. And apparently FFXIII isn't the only game coming out of this universe--there's a, uh, mobile game too. Oh. It's Final Fantasy Agito XIII.


Now it's Fabula Nova Crystallis--"the new tale of the crystal" in Latin. They're big on the Latin today. Whoa, wait, another new game? Another PS3 game?! Final Fantasy Versus XIII? They're emphasizing that in Latin, versus means "to change direction." This is a Tetsuya Nomura game, and he's taking the stage now.

Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 7:20 pm
by Popcorn

Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 7:32 pm
by Protodude
Link doesn't work, and I can't find it on the site.

Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 8:02 pm
by Popcorn
Link works for me. Right-click, save as, yeah?

Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 8:02 pm
by Kishi
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlOBLQTo-pY">Check it</a>. Low-res, but I'd say it's at least on par with the FFVII tech demo from last year. Definitely superior to Advent Children, at any rate.

Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 3:33 pm
by Ritz
Looks great so far. I especially like the protagonist's design, which is pretty unusual, taking Square's recent track record with characters into account. She looks like MGS3's Boss, only with the sex appeal that being 40 years of age or older generally excludes. I'd hit it.

Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 4:06 pm
by Light Speed
I don't get the whole two FFXIII game for the PS3. What is the point exactly?

Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 4:14 pm
by Ritz
They know that any fan of the series would shell out twice the cash just to see the whole story. Whatever happened to the multi-disc approach? You know, besides the bloated costs required to manufacture the blu-ray discs.

Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 6:07 pm
by Psxphile
It's Persona 2 all over again. Except this time name recognition will ensure both halves of the story make it overseas.

Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 8:54 pm
by Kishi
FF Versus XIII will be headed by Nomura and the teams behind Advent Children and Kingdom Hearts II. This hopefully means that all the angsty crap will be confined to that game (along with Nomura's leather fetish), leaving the main game clean.

Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 5:55 am
by Tsuyoshi-kun
I hope Nomura uses this time to make decent character designs, a feat he hasn't done since Final Fantasy X. I can't believe the same guy who designed awesome, well-designed characters like Tifa, Barret, and Cid from FFVIII also designed the zipper parade in Kingdom Hearts 2 or that ugly-as-sin Musashi PS2 game. He's like the Uekawa Yuji of Square; his early designs were great (FFVII, FFVIII, FFX), but now they're gotten boring and even dated.

Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 6:32 pm
by jenkins
Has anyone else considered that this means Square is already dropping XII? Of course they'll release it, but I have a feeling that they have a bad feeling about it.

XIII looks amazing: there's the next-gen graphics (naturally), the fantastically futuristic world, more advanced than anything we've seen before, and there's the sweet new character. She certainly walks all over man-whore Vaan or the strikingly unhygenic Ashe (by which I mean it looks like she's picking her nose all the time).

Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 6:44 pm
by James McGeachie
I'm starting to not give flying fuck about whatever Square-Enix do now, I'm seeing nothing but cash-ins all over the place (what they're doing with FFVII is an absolute joke) and the fact there's going to be several games titled FFXIII is pretty laughable. Of course the main game looks extremely sound visually just now but their games generally always do and that doesn't stop the majority (in recent times at least) from utterly blowing.

Currently the only upcoming title of theirs that I'm really curious about is a space shooter (or sh'mup, if you prefer) I heard they're doing for the 360, simply because the genre is going to be near non-existent next gen so I'm not going to find many other oppertunities to see what can be done with a shooter on the new consoles.

I did hear Treasure are also doing one though, which is very, very pleasing.

Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 7:33 pm
by Protodude
But man, the music in that FFXIII trailer was really, really good.

Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 7:40 pm
by Delphine
Tsuyoshi-kun wrote:I hope Nomura uses this time to make decent character designs, a feat he hasn't done since Final Fantasy X.
You... you thought those were good? Have we forgotten the goddamn belt dress?

Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 7:44 pm
by Baba O'Reily
Del, give me your light. Together, we can fight the belt dress in my home world!

Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 7:57 pm
by Tsuyoshi-kun
Delphine wrote:
Tsuyoshi-kun wrote:I hope Nomura uses this time to make decent character designs, a feat he hasn't done since Final Fantasy X.
You... you thought those were good? Have we forgotten the goddamn belt dress?
I dunno...I kinda liked the belt dress, if only because it was tacky. Tidus was ugly and his pants were terrible, too...but I liked the rest of the designs for the most part. They're at least better than anything since Final Fantasy X, if nothing else.

Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 9:26 pm
by Zarathustra
Any and all designs before FFVII = fantastical bullshit
Designs from FFVII = God's drawings
Any and all designs after FFVII = Gay-ass CG... sole exception of Rikku-sama:

Image

Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 10:12 pm
by Delphine
Oh, yeah, that's EXCELLENT character design. Why the hell is she wearing a scarf? And the hell are those floofy arm things? She could have used that material to oh, I dunno, MAKE A SHIRT.

Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 10:29 pm
by Timestones
I'm a bit surprised by the new girl's design and finding it difficult to believe it's actually one of Nomura's. His character designs are either a) fairly generic and bland or b) terribly flamboyant and ridiculous. This actually manages to be interesting to the eye without indulging into his zipper and belt fetish to such a great degree (though if you cover up half the girl's face in one shot, you pretty much have Advent Children Cloud). I'll be interested to see if the other character designes follow the same path or if they turn out to be the FFX cast reincarnated.

For the record I find Nomura's character designs to be okay, as long as he shows some restraint and doesn't go crazy like he tends to do ever since The Bouncer and FFX. I still think Amano's character designs were far more interesting considering the various ways you can interpert the appearance of the characters from FF1-6 and FF9. I dunno what it is, but I can actually think of different ways the characters Amano designed may look, where as with Nomura's characters, I can only see them looking that one way Nomura has depicted them.

Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 10:35 pm
by Delphine
Timestones wrote:(though if you cover up half the girl's face in one shot, you pretty much have Advent Children Cloud).
From 8 on they use like three different faces. Rinoa, Garnet/Dagger, Yuna, and AC Tifa have the same damn face.

Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 10:47 pm
by Timestones
Well, that's because Rinoa, Garnet, and Yuna are practically Tifa clones, but the problem is essentially the same.