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Nomic is a game where the players make up the rules.
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 10:39 am
by The T
Nomic is a game in which changing the rules is a move. In that respect it differs from almost every other game. The primary activity of Nomic is proposing changes in the rules, debating the wisdom of changing them in that way, voting on the changes, deciding what can and cannot be done afterwards, and doing it. Even this core of the game, of course, can be changed. (Peter Suber,
The Paradox of Self-Amendment, Appendix 3, p. 362)
With that said. I am looking for players for a game of Nomic I am running. I hope advertising this won't be frowned upon, but honestly this group is people is probably the most intelluctually diverse group available and there's bound to be someone who might be interested.
So, check in at
BoredNomic, read the rules, tell me if you might be interested.
I can only hope.
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 12:14 pm
by Brazillian Cara
But why would we read the rules if they can be changed at any time?
Just foolin'. I'll check it.
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 12:49 pm
by Double-S-
So... it's Calvinball.
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 12:53 pm
by The T
I've never read Calvin and Hobbes, but from what I've read in Wikipedia: yes, Calvinball is a Nomic.
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 1:01 pm
by CE
Calvinball's awesome. I'm in.
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 1:17 pm
by HyperFox
I wonder how our government would work as a Nomic...
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 1:40 pm
by The T
If anyone actually is interested, please follow the directions there.
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 2:06 pm
by Locit
The T wrote:I've never read Calvin and Hobbes, but from what I've read in Wikipedia: yes, Calvinball is a Nomic.
Sir, I think you mean that
Nomic is a type of
Calvinball.
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 2:30 pm
by The T
Locit wrote:Sir, I think you mean that Nomic is a type of Calvinball.
On the basis that Nomic is a real game and Calvinball isn't, you're wrong.
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 2:35 pm
by plasticwingsband
The T wrote:Locit wrote:Sir, I think you mean that Nomic is a type of Calvinball.
On the basis that Nomic is a real game and Calvinball isn't, you're wrong.
uh i played calvinball like 7 years ago
and i just heard of nomic right now
nomic is a type of calvinball
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 2:37 pm
by The T
plasticwingsband wrote:uh i played calvinball like 7 years ago
and i just heard of nomic right now
nomic is a type of calvinball
So you're saying that, because something is more well known, that automatically makes it the original?
[And on that matter, I had never heard of Calvinball until reading about it on Wikipedia.]
In addition, the rules of Nomic were first published in 1982. You find the first strip Calvinball appeared in and I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 2:43 pm
by plasticwingsband
CALVINBALL, MUTHAFUCKA!
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 2:47 pm
by The T
Quite.
Countdown from 9 to 5; horray! We're gonna die!
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 2:55 pm
by DackAttac
This threatens the negligible mental stability I have to come crashing down in a fit of fury and disarray.
I'm in.
[I'm going to be away for three/four days later this month... is that going to be a problem?]
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 3:03 pm
by The T
Probably not. I don't think missing a turn will be severely damaging. It isn't uncommon for people to drop out of the game altogether and re-join it later, even if it would be a little frowned upon.
So, you want to be in? Should I sign you up?
Also, CE, was your "I'm in" meant on a serious note?
I'm in love but I'm lazy; so won't you please come home?
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 3:21 pm
by DackAttac
Alrighty; sign me up.
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 3:24 pm
by The T
Erm... what e-mail should I use? That's another reason you should e-mail me, so I make sure it's right and everything.
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 6:47 pm
by CE
All you need to know about calvinball:
And I'm in as long as we can postbone starting until *after New Years*. I'm going to be (willingly) stuck in the wilderness for the last week in December.
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 6:57 pm
by The T
Not voting or creating a proposal for the first week won't be terribly damaging to you. I wasn't sure when I was going to start it. I figured this would be the most number of players I could probably get to launch it.
On that note, why would you willingly choose to be stuck in the wilderness?
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 7:35 pm
by Double-S-
The fact that you never heard of Calvinball before discredits everything you say.
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 7:42 pm
by The T
Double-S- wrote:The fact that you never heard of Calvinball before discredits everything you say.
I was fighting between two possibly responses:
"The fact that you are from Texas discredits everything you say."
or
"Insulting others is beneath me."
I tossed out the first one because I believed it was too mean-spirited, and tossed out the latter because I thought it sounded too arrogant.
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 8:19 pm
by Delphine
How's the air up there?
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 8:37 pm
by Double-S-
The T wrote:Double-S- wrote:The fact that you never heard of Calvinball before discredits everything you say.
I was fighting between two possibly responses:
"The fact that you are from Texas discredits everything you say."
or
"Insulting others is beneath me."
I tossed out the first one because I believed it was too mean-spirited, and tossed out the latter because I thought it sounded too arrogant.
See... mine was logical.
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 9:26 pm
by The T
My first comment was based around the fact a very well known fool of the country is from Texas. In addition, your statement is based around the fact that everyone who doesn't read a syndicated comic strip is a fool?
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 9:28 pm
by Delphine
Cold up there?