Robots

Knuckles Dawson · Post by **Knuckles Dawson** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 2:00 pm

Well, that just has to do with you being a pussy.

Grant · Post by **Grant** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 2:02 pm

Well, Neo Yi is a girl.

Knuckles Dawson · Post by **Knuckles Dawson** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 2:03 pm

Exactly my point.

Post by **Delphine** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 3:23 pm

Toy Story 2 was very, very good. It was not as good as the first, but it was pretty damn close.

Bug's Life, on the other hand, was mediocre. But I heard Disney had a pretty big hand in that movie, so that may be why.

Knuckles Dawson · Post by **Knuckles Dawson** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 3:35 pm

Yeah, Although A Bug's Life beat the shit out of Antz.

Dark Crow · Post by **Dark Crow** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 4:11 pm

Amazing Grant wrote:I agree. Finding Nemo is certainly in the Top 3 of Pixar's films, right with The Incredibles and Toy Story, I think.

I'm not sure why you feel Finding Nemo has no plot or any value beyond being an elaborate CGI test, Dark Crow. Elaborate, please?

Sorry I'm late with this reply, but better late then never.

As a CGI movie, Finding Nemo has what I humbly consider some of the best graphics I have ever seen. Except, the plot was completely boring, and seemed more like a glorified tech demo or shameless advertisement for the Great Barrier Reef, Sydney and clown fish in general. I find the fact that two stupid fish looking for an even stupider fish to not be very compelling in terms of storyline (I have the same issue with A Bug's Life). The rest of Pixar's work is excellent, unquestionably.

plasticwingsband · Post by **plasticwingsband** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 4:18 pm

Marlon wasn't stupid. He was just over-protective. And Nemo wasn't stupid either, he was just a child.

Still, even if the plot is rather basic, it's the way that Pixar tells it that makes it an interesting movie overall. And it doesn't hurt that it was actually quite humorous, as well.

Knuckles Dawson · Post by **Knuckles Dawson** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 4:24 pm

Ellen's Gay though..Did that have anything to do with it, Dark Crow?

Grant · Post by **Grant** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 9:36 pm

Dark Crow wrote:As a CGI movie, Finding Nemo has what I humbly consider some of the best graphics I have ever seen. Except, the plot was completely boring, and seemed more like a glorified tech demo or shameless advertisement for the Great Barrier Reef, Sydney and clown fish in general. I find the fact that two stupid fish looking for an even stupider fish to not be very compelling in terms of storyline (I have the same issue with A Bug's Life). The rest of Pixar's work is excellent, unquestionably.

I'm curious, then - did you like Toy Story then? Because all that film was about was two stupid toys trying to get back home. It was just one big long commercial for Mr. Potato Head and slinkies.

What about The Incredibles? That glorified CGI demo was just an excuse to show some slick animated fighting with boring cliched superheroes. And that was just a big commercial for gigantic robots.

I'm being facetious, of course; my point is that all of Pixar's films are pretty basic, at least in terms of plot, because they're primarily aimed at young audiences, or extremely broad audiences anyway. The thing that makes Pixar's work good is the charm and the warmth in which the admittedly conventional plot is shown. It's not what they're doing, but how they're doing it.

Knuckles Dawson · Post by **Knuckles Dawson** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 10:32 pm

Not to mention the eggs and the humour that kids wouldn't get, but the older audience would.

Dark Crow · Post by **Dark Crow** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:39 pm

Amazing Grant wrote: I'm curious, then - did you like Toy Story then? Because all that film was about was two stupid toys trying to get back home. It was just one big long commercial for Mr. Potato Head and slinkies.

What about The Incredibles? That glorified CGI demo was just an excuse to show some slick animated fighting with boring clichÃƒÂ©d superheroes. And that was just a big commercial for gigantic robots.

I'm being facetious, of course; my point is that all of Pixar's films are pretty basic, at least in terms of plot, because they're primarily aimed at young audiences, or extremely broad audiences anyway. The thing that makes Pixar's work good is the charm and the warmth in which the admittedly conventional plot is shown. It's not what they're doing, but how they're doing it.

I myself was being facetious with the stupid fish remark, and I know the film was aimed at children, but that isnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t the point. Toy Story and Monsters Inc. were aimed at the same audience, and were superb in my opinion. No, the main problem with Nemo was that it simply not a clever movie unlike the rest of Pixar's. Their plots have always been basic to appeal to the masses, but usually their films have such clever plot twists that make the films so enjoyable to behold. Toy Story was excellent in that the movie took the perspective of a childhood fantasy of Toys coming to life (which I'm sure all have believed at one point). Monsters Inc. was excellent in that again Pixar take another childhood fantasy, but take it from the perspective of the monsters scaring children against their will. Similarly, The Incredibles who wanted to be superheroes, but the world didn't. The plots maybe conventional, but the execution isnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t. As it stands, Nemo in my opinion was the standard "go rescue the princess plot", except set in the Great Barrier Reef, with the "surprise" twist being that eventually Nemo is the one who saves Marlin and Dory(?) from a big bad net despite his crippled fin. Despite how touching the sentiments maybe, it was pretty predictable as to what was going to happen, thus making it boring to watch. That, and the jokes (on contrast to Pixar's others) were pretty lame also.

Post by **Segaholic2** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:41 pm

I think you watched a different movie. Finding Nemo is, in my opinion, in Pixar's top three films so far.

Dark Crow · Post by **Dark Crow** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:48 pm

I'm pretty certain I watched the same movie. It's the one that features the fish 'friendly' shark, correct?

Zeta · Post by **Zeta** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 1:06 am

I'm pretty certain I watched the same movie. It's the one that features the fish 'friendly' shark, correct?

That's both Sharks Tale and Finding Nemo. Specify.

Dark Crow · Post by **Dark Crow** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 1:39 am

Oh yeah that's true, well it was the fish movie that showed the Sydney Opera House, had two fish trying to find Nemo by getting the forgetful fish (Dory or something) to read the snorkers goggles, and containing the dentist with the fish tank in his operating room, trying to give away the captive Nemo to the girl with the braces. If that's the case, then yes I have most certainly seen it.

Neo Yi · Post by **Neo Yi** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 8:22 am

Exactly my point.

What in God's name are you implying, Knuckles Dawson? Because I'm a girl, I'm automatically a pussy?
~Neo

chriscaffee · Post by **chriscaffee** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 8:30 am

That makes all guys dicks mirite?

Neo Yi · Post by **Neo Yi** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 8:42 am

Where did I imply that, Chriscaffee?
~Neo

chriscaffee · Post by **chriscaffee** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 8:49 am

Where did I imply that you implied that?

j-man · Post by **j-man** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 8:56 am

I get it. Ho ho.

Neo Yi · Post by **Neo Yi** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 9:06 am

Where did I imply that you implied that?

*Sigh*
Forget it. I'm not in any mood to argue. I'm just slighty pissed at Knuckles Dawson, not you Chris. No need for you to be involved. Although if Knuckles meant it as a joke, then eh, I'm fine with it (and I can only hope he was).
~Neo

j-man · Post by **j-man** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 9:23 am

I don't think you got the joke. I did. Ho ho.

Neo Yi · Post by **Neo Yi** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 9:38 am

It's the morning time over here, J-Man, I won't get anything until afternoon strikes.
~Neo

Knuckles Dawson · Post by **Knuckles Dawson** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 10:14 am

It was completely meant for humor purposes. I in no way feel that you are a pussy, or that by being female makes one a pussy. That doesn't include possession of, but that's a completely different conversation.

Neo Yi · Post by **Neo Yi** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 10:43 am

I'd figure it was, but I was typing that thing way above because it was like, 8 AM in the morning and I can't think straight in the morning (It's only 11: 46AM, so forgive me if I say anything else stupid), plus I'm in that time where everything, however little, pisses me off. It should go away in about a couple of days.
~Neo