I bring the Pain!

Locit · Post by **Locit** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 5:58 pm

Have... have you ever read a psychology textbook? Or a newspaper? Or watched television?

Double-S- · Post by **Double-S-** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 7:40 pm

Have... have you answered my question?

Baba O'Reily · Post by **Baba O'Reily** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 7:59 pm

They don't help at all. But they're like a neverending rainy day funbox.

plasticwingsband · Post by **plasticwingsband** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 8:47 pm

It seems like Double S is going into caffee's territory: arguing for argument's sake.

First of all, Psychology and Philosophy are nothing alike. Philosophy is a means of figuring out how and why existence is the way it is. Psychology is an actual science, and one that deals in mental processes and behavior.

One can run tests and do research based on Psychology, and it is impossible to do the same things with Philosophy. Psychology covers a wide range of fields, including: Neuroscience, the Nature vs. Nurture debate, Physical, Cognitive and Social development, Sensation and Perception, States of Consciousness, Learning and Memory, Motivation, Emotion, and Personality. And that's barely scratching the surface.

Philosophy, on the other hand, tends to deal with questions such as, "Why are we here? What is our purpose? Is there a God?"

They are vastly different things.

They make people think about thinking. My point exactly.

Based on this reasoning, I could say that Books, Movies, Video Games, & TV shows are all the same thing, as they are all forms of entertainment. Likewise, Biology and Chemistry are the same thing as they are both Sciences. That doesn't make it true.

What I mean to say is, when was the last time philosophy or psychology helped people in a substantial way. I can think of cars, buildings, and computers as engineering feats which helped society. Name a philosophical or psychologcal theory which did anything like that.

No one here has even said anything about Philosophy, besides yourself, so I don't know why you're entering that into the equation.

Granted, it is hard to think of an answer to that question, but that doesn't mean that Psychology as a whole should be disregarded. On an individual level, Psychology has helped many people get rid of their own Psychologicla problems and disorders. I guess the best way to answer your question would be this: Psychology has given us a better understanding of why and how human being act the way they do.

Post by **Delphine** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 9:10 pm

Locit wrote:Have... have you ever read a psychology textbook? Or a newspaper? Or watched television?

aso · Post by **aso** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 9:27 pm

Yes, psychology makes people think about thinking. It helps them delve into such matters as mental disease and coping factors, and try to understand it. As plasticwingsbad basically said, psychology gives us a better understanding of why and how people act the way they do.

Were it not for psychology, we would not understand as much about the mind as we do today.

Double-S- · Post by **Double-S-** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 1:35 am

plasticwingsband wrote:First of all, Psychology and Philosophy are nothing alike. Philosophy is a means of figuring out how and why existence is the way it is. Psychology is an actual science, and one that deals in mental processes and behavior.

Philosophy... tends to deal with questions such as, "Why are we here? What is our purpose? Is there a God?"

They are vastly different things.

The philosophy course I took last semester (which was quite a joke of a class, I might add) asked those philosophical questions you mentioned and also asked "What makes people do these things/why/etc" which is basically psychology. So I guess that's why I cross the two subjects pretty easily.

plasticwingsband wrote:
They make people think about thinking. My point exactly.
Based on this reasoning, I could say that Books, Movies, Video Games, & TV shows are all the same thing, as they are all forms of entertainment. Likewise, Biology and Chemistry are the same thing as they are both Sciences.

True, but I mean it's one thing to be entertainment, something else entirely to be something "serious". Also Biology and Chemistry are the study of the atomic/chemical structure of things, which are well set. The human mind, however, is an extremely fickle thing which varies widely from person to person, and I don't think any amount of study could ever analyze it very well.

plasticwingsband wrote:Granted, it is hard to think of an answer to that question, but that doesn't mean that Psychology as a whole should be disregarded. On an individual level, Psychology has helped many people get rid of their own Psychologicla problems and disorders. I guess the best way to answer your question would be this: Psychology has given us a better understanding of why and how human being act the way they do.

Of course psychology at its basic definition should not be cast aside. I practice psychology on myself all the time when I analyze my thoughts or actions. But I'm not ever going to let somebody else's theory tell me what it was that made me do or think something. That's just trying to shift the blame off onto something else. I mean, unless I'm psychologically disturbed or unstable (in which situation psychology may be a useful thing), if I don't know why the heck I did something, then I don't see how somebody else would.

Cypher · Post by **Cypher** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 6:34 am

Psychology may lead to uncovering the secrets of psychic powers to zap people with

but for now, we have those new stun gun things

Locit · Post by **Locit** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 1:13 pm

The human mind, however, is an extremely fickle thing which varies widely from person to person, and I don't think any amount of study could ever analyze it very well.

Go out and pick up the current issue of National Geographic. Seriously. Go pick it up right now. There's a whole damn section about that exact subject, and how studying the mind is leading to incredible new developments.

Post by **Delphine** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 2:39 pm

I give this argument a 7.8 / 10.

Ash Holt · Post by **Ash Holt** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 3:12 pm

Delphine wrote:I give this argument a 7.8 / 10.

It's a 7.7 at best and you know it.

Post by **Delphine** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 8:49 pm

Oh, please, you're obviously missing AHH IT BLINKED!!

Brazillian Cara · Post by **Brazillian Cara** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 9:37 pm

You only noticed it now?
Anyway, philosophy isn't that useless. I mean, where do you think the Democratic rights came from? The U.S.A.?

Grant · Post by **Grant** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 9:40 pm

Did Cara just make a good point?

Brazillian Cara · Post by **Brazillian Cara** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 9:49 pm

It isn't the first time, but yeah, I made a good point.

Post by **Delphine** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 11:34 pm

Philosophy is useless. We should all just sit at home and watch American Idle while eating Doritos and touching ourselves.

Grant · Post by **Grant** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 11:41 pm

Delphine wrote:American Idle

HAHA ITS A PLAY ON WORDS GET IT

Post by **Delphine** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 11:43 pm

OMG WAY TO RUIN IT

Grant · Post by **Grant** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 11:47 pm

IT WASNT FUNNY ENOUGH TO RUIN

Post by **Delphine** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 11:49 pm

YOU'RE UGLY AND NO ONE LIKES YOU AND YOU SMELL LIKE BAD CHEESE

Grant · Post by **Grant** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 11:54 pm

YOU SCARE BABIES AND YOU CAN'T PEE STANDING UP

Zeta · Post by **Zeta** » Sun Mar 06, 2005 12:12 am

SEXUAL TENSION! ;)

Post by **Delphine** » Sun Mar 06, 2005 3:56 pm

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Baba O'Reily · Post by **Baba O'Reily** » Sun Mar 06, 2005 5:11 pm

The GHZ Forum

I bring the Pain!

I'm going to be an ass.

This will be fun.