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Knuckles Dawson · Post by **Knuckles Dawson** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 1:08 pm

yeah, Family Guy DVD commentary mentioned how Stewie couldn't have a real gun but Rayguns were okay. It boggles the mind, really.

Post by **Esrever** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 1:37 pm

Anyone remember the Sam and Max TV cartoon? They were adapting one segment from the comic book, but because they couldn't have Max holding a handgun, they put him in a bloody tank instead.

Knuckles Dawson · Post by **Knuckles Dawson** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 1:43 pm

LOL I loved that cartoon, it was great.

Post by **Delphine** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 1:46 pm

Bullet guns are real and laser guns aren't, that's why the distinction exists. It's still stupid.

Edit: Although that doesn't account for what Esrever said about the tank. What the hell?

chriscaffee · Post by **chriscaffee** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 1:51 pm

Bullet guns are real and laser guns aren't, that's why the distinction exists. It's still stupid.

Mr. President that statement is not entirely accurate.

Knuckles Dawson · Post by **Knuckles Dawson** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 2:01 pm

I think he means "bloody" as a slang more than covered in red bodily fluid.

Zeta · Post by **Zeta** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 2:42 pm

Bullet guns are real and laser guns aren't, that's why the distinction exists. It's still stupid.

yeah, Family Guy DVD commentary mentioned how Stewie couldn't have a real gun but Rayguns were okay. It boggles the mind, really.

For some reason displaying "real" guns on cartoons, you know, the ones that use a chemical explosion to throw a chunk of metal into a guy, are too violent, but simply using a laser to superheat their flesh and literally boil them alive is more accepted.

But the really funny part is - what the fuck are these pussies going to do when ray and laser guns become practical and commonly used?

What the hell will cartoon characters shoot at eachother with?

You wouldn't be able to show bullets or lasers because kids could get their hands on either.

Reminds me of that shitty episode of Static Shock where they not only gave the police officers laser guns - they wouldn't even allow them to look like guns. They had fucking flashlights or wands or something. Moronic as fuck.

I hate that show.

Knuckles Dawson · Post by **Knuckles Dawson** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 3:14 pm

I feel blessed to have never seen it.

Post by **Delphine** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 3:21 pm

Wait, laser guns exist? Where the hell have I been?

Knuckles Dawson · Post by **Knuckles Dawson** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 3:35 pm

Think you misread something somewhere, Del. If not, point me in the direction of where you saw that they do exist.

Unless you're just being funny, then never mind.

Lizard · Post by **Lizard** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 3:51 pm

But the really funny part is - what the fuck are these pussies going to do when ray and laser guns become practical and commonly used?

What the hell will cartoon characters shoot at eachother with?

They are going to point fingers at each other (Yu-gi-oh dub), use super soakers (One Piece dub), Cork guns (One Piece dub again) or... they will use this crazy contraption. (Once again One Piece dub)

Post by **Esrever** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 4:16 pm

I think the important thing isn't whether or not the weapon is real, but whether or not its use is emulatable. I guess the theory is that if a kid sees someone using a real gun on TV, they might try to find and use a real gun themselves. There's probably one in the house where the kid lives. Conversely, they're going to have trouble reinacting the use of a laser or a tank.

Of course, it's still stupid. A gun is a gun... a kid who sees someone using a laser on TV is just as likely to go for his dad's handgun as one who sees someone using an actual handgun. The fact that actual guns are banned is just bureaucratic nonsense executed by people who want to appear like they actually give a fuck.

Knuckles Dawson · Post by **Knuckles Dawson** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 4:21 pm

Columbine!!!! Oh teh Noes!!!1112

One Classy Bloke · Post by **One Classy Bloke** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 4:40 pm

Esrever wrote:I think the important thing isn't whether or not the weapon is real, but whether or not its use is emulatable. I guess the theory is that if a kid sees someone using a real gun on TV, they might try to find and use a real gun themselves. There's probably one in the house where the kid lives. Conversely, they're going to have trouble reinacting the use of a laser or a tank.

Of course, it's still stupid. A gun is a gun... a kid who sees someone using a laser on TV is just as likely to go for his dad's handgun as one who sees someone using an actual handgun. The fact that actual guns are banned is just bureaucratic nonsense executed by people who want to appear like they actually give a fuck.

Esrever got it right, but he failed to note today's "give the child everything they want" society we live in. Kid wants a laser gun and whines to their parents, whom (like all americans) happen to have a super PhD in science technology. They create the gun, patent it, have it mass produced and become rich. They piss off to another planet while the rest of the world's kids blast each other to hell.

4kids are trying to kill us all via a needlessly complicated series of events!

Knuckles Dawson · Post by **Knuckles Dawson** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 5:55 pm

Damn them all to hell! I'm glad I avoid their stuff.

chriscaffee · Post by **chriscaffee** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 6:44 pm

Just because something isn't common, practical or man-portable doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Post by **Pepperidge** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 9:06 pm

That thing about Sam and Max is really funny. Kind of like that one episode of the old Batman cartoon where two women were supposed to be punching at each other, but Fox said they couldn't show them punching. So Bruce Timm asked them what they could do, and they suggested having them claw and pull each others hair.

The hilarious thing about Gundam SEED is that the the US version with the laser guns aired at 10:30pm and was then pushed back to 1:30am on Cartoon Network, whereas the Canadian version that runs uncut and with the guns intact airs at 9:30pm.

Knuckles Dawson · Post by **Knuckles Dawson** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 10:31 pm

Well, we can download music movies and such with no legal liabilities, so who cares about guns on TV in Canada?

Post by **G.Silver** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 2:04 am

What the hell will cartoon characters shoot at eachother with?

Obviously sci-fi will need to come up with something more implausible. Like... Implosion Rifle.

No wait!

TIME GUN!

Dark Crow · Post by **Dark Crow** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 2:20 am

Pepperidge wrote:That thing about Sam and Max is really funny. Kind of like that one episode of the old Batman cartoon where two women were supposed to be punching at each other, but Fox said they couldn't show them punching.

If you think the show is funny, wait until you play the PC adventure game. It's hilarious.

As for the gun's not allowed in childrenÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s show, I think it's simply a case of political correctness gone mad in our society. If the politicians really wanted to protect families with impressionable children, then they would urge the parents to sit the child down and talk about how just what they are really used for, and the possible resulting consequences of using such weapons. This censorship and hypocrisy of blaming television/gaming/music with guns or violence causing real-life violence has gone on long enough.

Neo Yi · Post by **Neo Yi** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 8:18 am

Wot Dark Crow said. I'm mostly for the whole "parents and children work together". In the end, the parents are really the ones teaching their kids the value of good and bad and other parental techniques and we can only hope the kid listens. I know I've seen plenty of guns on TV as a child, but not ONCE did I have the urge to pick one up and imitate what was shown on TV. Hell, BOTH my parents are in the Korean gun club and I've been to so many shooting ranges as a child and I STILL don't have the urge to shoot someone, so my parents must've done some good in me. I'm sick of everyone blaming TV and video games on violence problems...not that I can't stop it.
~Neo

Tsuyoshi-kun · Post by **Tsuyoshi-kun** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 9:34 am

And I bet these parents are the same ones who let their kids watch South Park and play Halo or some equally stupid, violent video game.

Yeah. That makes fucking sense.

Neo Yi · Post by **Neo Yi** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 9:39 am

I've learned that a lot of things don't make sense.
~Neo

Knuckles Dawson · Post by **Knuckles Dawson** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 10:16 am

Tsuyoshi-kun wrote:....and play Halo or some equally stupid, violent video game.

Yeah. That makes fucking sense.

I hope you only mean that in a general manner, and not in a specific one. But to each their own.

Post by **Delphine** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 1:37 pm

G.Silver wrote:TIME GUN!

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