You mean I'm going to have to actually... work?!

Spazz · Post by **Spazz** » Sun Nov 28, 2004 8:46 pm

chriscaffee wrote:I will never understand the point of Black Skin Month.

IT'S NOT BLACK IT'S [dark] BROWN YOU RACIST!!!

Grant · Post by **Grant** » Sun Nov 28, 2004 8:47 pm

I could be wrong, but maybe it has something do with the ethnicity of black people, rather than the aesthetic difference of the skin color.

Last I checked, blue eyed people and redheads don't really have their own culture.

That said, why don't Native Americans have their own month? I mean, fuck, we took their land, destroyed their culture and put them on a reservation. And they don't even have their own month!

We still shit on them, I guess.

chriscaffee · Post by **chriscaffee** » Sun Nov 28, 2004 8:51 pm

It's still stupid. Goths claim they have a culture.

And I'm pretty sure we do have a Native American month. I know we have Asian-Pacifics and Hispanics.

plasticwingsband · Post by **plasticwingsband** » Sun Nov 28, 2004 8:53 pm

The Red Man's greed was their downfall.

chriscaffee · Post by **chriscaffee** » Sun Nov 28, 2004 9:00 pm

November for the record is the National American Indian Heritage Month. As in this month right now.

Chicanos share February with the African Americans.

International Women's day is on the 8th of March.

Locit · Post by **Locit** » Sun Nov 28, 2004 10:12 pm

First I've heard of this. Which is why it's so funny.

Zeta · Post by **Zeta** » Sun Nov 28, 2004 11:29 pm

Red-headed people weren't enslaved.

Well, to be fair - there was that time in America when "No Irish Need Apply" was in effect.

Post by **Esrever** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 2:07 am

It seems kind of silly for them to have their own month. Native Americans aren't all the same ethnicity. It would be kind of like having an "European Month."

Post by **Delphine** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 4:03 pm

Zeta wrote:
Red-headed people weren't enslaved.
Well, to be fair - there was that time in America when "No Irish Need Apply" was in effect.

Not all Irish people are red-headed, you know. ;P And that happened to a lot of different nationalities.

Grant · Post by **Grant** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 4:30 pm

Tell you what, I never knew that about the whole Kwanzaa thing that Zeta mentioned. There's a big Kwanzaa celebration thing going on this week, I think, on campus and now I know that it's all bullshit!

Bullshit, I say!

Post by **Delphine** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 5:52 pm

It's basically another version of this passive-agressive segreration we've got going on. "Oh, [ethnic minority] isn't <i>different</i>, we just think they need help from us white folks, 'cause gosh golly they have such a hard time doing it themselves!"

Grant · Post by **Grant** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 6:02 pm

What you said is funny because it's usually white people that put minorities in a position where they'd need help in the first place!

Anyway, not to quibble over words but what you're describing isn't really segregation, per se. Absorption, maybe?

You know, "oh, the only thing really different about us is our skin color. Ebony and Ivory, you see. Well, we can get over that (maybe), honey, no problem. Just, you know, give up everything important to you and be more... white. Here's your tie and your mayonaisse. 'Kay, then?"

Adam Adamant · Post by **Adam Adamant** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 6:16 pm

Delphine, I think you're taking it a bit far to suggest that an event celebrating black independence (or whatever this thing celebrates), is eqivalent to the establishment saying that black people can't be be politcally vocal on their own. Surley the reason there is an event is because black people are recognised politically and socially, because they have become independent.

Post by **Delphine** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 6:19 pm

Adam, you have far too much confidence in the human race.

Adam Adamant · Post by **Adam Adamant** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 6:32 pm

And you have too much distrust.

j-man · Post by **j-man** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 6:35 pm

Welcome to the GHZ.

Post by **Delphine** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 9:09 pm

Welcome to Reality, more like it.

chriscaffee · Post by **chriscaffee** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 10:27 pm

Just, you know, give up everything important to you and be more... white. Here's your tie and your mayonaisse. 'Kay, then?"

What important values do black people have to give up in order to act white? What the hell is "acting white" anyway?

Locit · Post by **Locit** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 10:32 pm

Apparently it involves wearing a tie and eating mayonaisse.

Grant · Post by **Grant** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 11:18 pm

Yeah, that was just a throwaway reference to a guilty pleasure flick of mine, Undercover Brother.

Poorly worded as it might've been, the point I was trying to get at was although we think of and promte ourselves as a culturally plural nation, in reality all we're doing is forcing people to assimiliate to a single culture or ethnicity.

chriscaffee · Post by **chriscaffee** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 11:59 pm

Maybe as a group dynamic, I really don't know. Even if it does happen, I don't so much think of it as people "forcing" others as it is just sort of easier to go with the flow.

Post by **Delphine** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 10:16 am

Ah, America: Where it's good to be individual and unique, as long as you're the same as everyone else.

Post by **Esrever** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 11:17 am

It is your standard melting pot vs. mosaic debate. Woo!

chriscaffee · Post by **chriscaffee** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 11:43 am

Where it's good to be individual and unique, as long as you're the same as everyone else.

Being unique is impossible.

Post by **Delphine** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 1:48 pm

Yes dear, I know.