This remind you of anybody?

Adam Adamant · Post by **Adam Adamant** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 5:22 pm

Yeah I apologise, I've been taking this all very far. Popcorn's mum is a bloody whore!

The Doc · Post by **The Doc** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 5:22 pm

What in the Hell's the difference between a topic and a thread?

Post by **Segaholic2** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 5:24 pm

The original topic of this thread was completely derailed to argue about guns?

Grant · Post by **Grant** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 5:24 pm

A topic would be what you discuss, and a thread is where.

The Doc · Post by **The Doc** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 5:25 pm

Oh, and drugs are illegal 'cause they're bad, m'kay?

I think there should be a ban on cigarettes, but if there is, smokers should be given a sufficient amount of time, say a year or so, to kick the habit. That way, when the ban is taken into affect, nobody will care! It's the 27th Amendment all over again!!!

I'm so fucking smart. I scare me.

Spazz · Post by **Spazz** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 5:26 pm

Delphine wrote:Yeah, yeah, shaddup. I usually stay out of these arguments, but I seem to have taken a leave of my sanity. I think I'll bow out now, I hate arguing with socialists even more than I hate arguing with conservatives.

Heh, sorry, I really didn't mean to sound like I'm superior or anything, but I couldn't think of a better way to say how pathetic the argument is at the moment without just saying something like, "Omg, SHUT UP!"

The Doc · Post by **The Doc** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 5:29 pm

Yeah, 'cause then the topic would veer into how much Spazz is...well, a spaz.

Adam Adamant · Post by **Adam Adamant** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 5:30 pm

I think we all needed a kick. Hurrah Spazz for being the voice of reason.

The Doc · Post by **The Doc** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 5:34 pm

*looks at Adam in total disdain and disgust*

Post by **Esrever** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 5:38 pm

I can't keep up with any kind of argument in this thread. I come back an hour later and it's like thirty posts away from my last comment.

Del, like Chriscaffe says, I don't think increasing the penalties for committing gun crimes is going to discourage anything. If they don't care about the punishment now, they're not going to care about it if it is doubled either. Everyone thinks that THEY'RE the one who can get away with murder, if they're even thinking clearly at all. But then, I don't think banning guns will prevent gun crimes either. So what's the solution, eh?

Like it or not, the United States is a unique case in the Western world on this issue. You guys manage to shoot more folks per capita than the Canadians, the Brits, the French, etc, etc... by a WIDE margin. And no, it's not because the rest of us are just doing are killing with swords and crossbows. In Canada, the rate of violent crime has been dropping consistently for the last decade. And that's ALL violent crime, not just gun-related. AND we have a high level of gun ownership in this country. It's just mostly rifles rather than hand guns.

I hear you guys talking about how desperately you need you guns to protect yourself from OTHER crazy dudes and it just baffles me, really! I don't mean I'm horrified or anything, I just don't get it. It's not like Canada is bereft of danger, but I don't know anyone who would ever seriously consider themselves in need of a gun for defense. Are you really, honestly worried in your day to day life about getting randomly stuffed in your car trunk or shot up in your living room?

I mean, in the city where I live, there are occassionally gun murders. One guy was shot on the street because he was mistaken for a rival gang member. Though that's not a great example, since carrying a gun wouldn't have helped that guy. OK, but earlier this year, a dude my age in the wealthier area of town was shot up in his home. But the next day, people weren't going "oh shit, we better all buy some guns now to protect ourselves," they were saying, "too bad about that kid, but he was probably some drug dealer." (And he was, actually.) Or like, my family was worried about break-ins. So we had an alarm installed.

Do you see what I'm getting at here? I mean, we all do things to try to protect ourselves from harm... it's instinctual. But I've never known many people outside the USA who passionately believed a gun was a particularly useful or necessary solution. You must live in a very scary country.

As an asside, on the drug issue, it actually DOES make sense for them to be illegal in a country that has public healthcare. Hospitals are paid for by the tax-payers... why should they be paying for ailments people give themselves by fucking up their bodies? Of course, the worst culprit for that is cigarettes, which ARE legal... so alternately, they are incredibly heavily taxed.

Double-S- · Post by **Double-S-** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 5:41 pm

I've heard very different reports about Canadia's crime.

The Doc · Post by **The Doc** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 5:41 pm

*takes cotton balls out of ears*

I'm sorry, Esrever, I wasn't listening. What was that?

Post by **Esrever** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 5:42 pm

Look, dude, when i started writing that we were a page back and everyone was writing big rants! And now we're not. But... I didn't know man, I didn't KNOW! :D

The Doc · Post by **The Doc** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 5:43 pm

Canadia? Isn't that a state?

Zeta · Post by **Zeta** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 5:44 pm

I'm glad we could all agree to disagree.

Or to hate eachother.

Whichever.

The Doc · Post by **The Doc** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 5:44 pm

Looks like Esrever needs a hug.

Post by **Delphine** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 5:44 pm

Esrever wrote:Like it or not, the United States is a unique case in the Western world on this issue. You guys manage to shoot more folks per capita than the Canadians, the Brits, the French, etc, etc... by a WIDE margin.

Well, we all hate each other.

And without getting too omgconspiracy! here, the media loves to scare us, and the government knows it can control us by scaring us, and we like to scare each other and ourselves. Thus, we are very very paranoid.

Post by **Esrever** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 5:49 pm

Heh! Well, we're pretty inundated with American media up here too. That was one of the many points in Bowling for Columbine that pissed me off. He shows us this clip of "Canadian TV news" and it is a story about speed bumps or whatever, but that is such a joke. We get some sensationalism in our media, AND we get all of your sensationalized media as well. The only channel we're missing is Fox News, but I hear it's coming pretty soon. Oh boy! :)

Zeta · Post by **Zeta** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 5:54 pm

*snickers* Considering how liberal Canada is, broadcasting FoxNews in Canada would be the equivalent of broadcasting the 700 Club into Iran.

The Doc · Post by **The Doc** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 6:17 pm

Man, broadcasting the NEWS in Canada is like telling a beaver about your small penis and expecting it to care.

Post by **Esrever** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 6:30 pm

I'm sorry you didn't have anyone else to talk to about it, Doc.

Post by **Delphine** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 6:33 pm

...Canadians are beavers?

Dude, don't diss our neighbors to the north. Their drinking age is three years younger than ours, and you don't even need a passport to go drink their beer! That, and they actually keep their land clean. The American side of Niagra Falls is disgusting compared to the Canadian side.

Post by **Esrever** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 6:38 pm

We also say funny things like "eh," "aboot" and "toque"!

daytonafathead · Post by **daytonafathead** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 6:50 pm

this thread will most likely be added to the abyss section.

shave the whales

Brazillian Cara · Post by **Brazillian Cara** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 6:59 pm

(quote)Do you see what I'm getting at here? I mean, we all do things to try to protect ourselves from harm... it's instinctual. But I've never known many people outside the USA who passionately believed a gun was a particularly useful or necessary solution. You must live in a very scary country. (quote)
God SAVE America.