So who's going to martyr themselves and buy the Shadow game?

Locit · Post by **Locit** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 6:20 pm

I was going for 4/10, just to be safe.

smiths32 · Post by **smiths32** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 6:27 pm

Well, at least we have Sonic Rush on our side.

Is Rush really going to be that good? I'm pretty positive that'll be better than the Advance series but it still doesn't look all that great- music aside- I wouldn't get your hopes up about it.

Professor Machenstein · Tue Nov 15, 2005 6:36 pm

Locit wrote:I was going for 4/10, just to be safe.

Oh yeah, well I was going for a 6.5Ã‚Â¾ out of a possible 12 remainder 6Ã‚Â², just to be on the "so-so" side.

smiths32 wrote:Is Rush really going to be that good? I'm pretty positive that'll be better than the Advance series but it still doesn't look all that great- music aside- I wouldn't get your hopes up about it.

Surely this is a good new Sonic game we're talking about. One that doesn't rely on some automated boost-mode or some tag team nonsense. It uses the same formula as as the classic games, but added in with an optional tension meter, so you can summon boost-mode whenever you wish. Sounds like more of an enchancement than a plain-out, one time gimmick to me.

Post by **Crazy Penguin** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 7:00 pm

Sonic Advance was "back to basics" and got fairly good reviews too, but every single aspect of the game was bland. I truly hope that Sonic Rush is a good game that brings new ideas to the table that enhance the Sonic experience, and it may very well be, but I've not seen anything to suggest that so far. Most of the excitement seems to be coming from the fact that the game doesn't seem to have any immediately obvious stupid gimmicks or ideas.

Gaz · Post by **Gaz** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 3:37 am

There's a video review on GameTrailers now.

It's a lot more positive than the Eurogamer review and they give Shadow a score of 8.3.

Plorpus III · Post by **Plorpus III** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 9:25 pm

I bought it. It's not as bad as heroes, but it just doesn't feel very Sonicy at times. Not to mention the fact that the level design sucks balls. It actually had the potential to be a really good Sonic game, and I have enjoyed it, but it's just not up to par.

firemario1001 · Post by **firemario1001** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 10:31 pm

And you were expecting nothing short of a masterpiece?

CM August · Post by **CM August** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 10:36 pm

I'm surprised the game's plot hasn't been totally given away by now.

Post by **Delphine** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 11:04 pm

CM August · Post by **CM August** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 11:23 pm

Delphine wrote:<a href="http://www.livejournal.com/community/me ... html">Good god, why.</a>

Ladies and gentlemen, the Sonic fandom.

Plorpus III · Post by **Plorpus III** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 11:26 pm

firemario1001 wrote:And you were expecting nothing short of a masterpiece?

No, I was expecting it to be crap, and secretly hoping that it wouldn't be.

One Classy Bloke · Post by **One Classy Bloke** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 1:40 pm

I played the first few stages yesterday.

So far, control is like hairy man ass, in that you don't want to touch it for fear of death. Level design is like accidently shooting a load into your eye, and i dare say that the guns are the saving grace, because you don't have to worry about using the homing attack.

Light Speed · Post by **Light Speed** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 2:16 pm

It looks like Sega made a smart choice though. Of the 90 fan submitted reviews of the game, the average is a 9.7/10. Once again, I have lost all faith in mankind. Well not really, you gotta have some faith to lose it.

Professor Machenstein · Thu Nov 17, 2005 4:40 pm

Well, here's what I did. I put Sonic Heroes and Shadow the Hedgehog into a shoe box, taped a note of the shoe box saying "The Lost Episodes" and put the box in my closet. I wholeheartedly suggest you do the same.

The series ended with Sonic Adventure 2. There has been no Sonic game after that. Ever.

EDIT: Oh, and long live the Sonic Advance series. Even though they don't retain the charm of the classic games, they still have a hint of quality in them.

Ngangbius · Post by **Ngangbius** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 5:21 pm

Light Speed wrote:It looks like Sega made a smart choice though. Of the 90 fan submitted reviews of the game, the average is a 9.7/10. Once again, I have lost all faith in mankind. Well not really, you gotta have some faith to lose it.

And I bet most of those people are blind Sonic(or Shadow) fans that are ignorant that better games actully exist even though it doesn't have their precious Sonic franchise attached to it. =P

Frieza2000 · Post by **Frieza2000** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 6:58 pm

Ending #1

Edit: Nevermind. It's all Japanese. And the boss battle lasts 10 minutes because the player sucks.

Ritz · Post by **Ritz** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 7:02 pm

88 MB and only one seeder? Fuck that.

Ngangbius · Post by **Ngangbius** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 9:54 pm

More review fun:

http://xbox.ign.com/articles/667/667942p1.html

Wow! IGN was really harsh on this game. IGN! A 4.9 out of 10

http://cube.gamespy.com/gamecube/shadow ... 700p1.html

GameSpy 2 stars out of 5.

Double-S- · Post by **Double-S-** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 11:20 pm

And IGN's usually generous.

Zeta · Post by **Zeta** » Fri Nov 18, 2005 12:07 am

Shadow kills Eggman in one of the endings? Now I'm really pissed off. I want to see that the other way around.

BlazeHedgehog · Post by **BlazeHedgehog** » Fri Nov 18, 2005 2:46 am

http://media.putfile.com/All-Hail-Shadow

Holy shit, hahaha. I hope this is so terrible on purpose, because it's really hilarious. (and the song Julien-K did for the game is actually pretty okay)

Frieza2000 · Post by **Frieza2000** » Fri Nov 18, 2005 6:48 am

BTW, the motorcycle is real. So are those horrible scenes from the trailers of Shadow dramatically cocking his gun. And I don't know what to make of the claymation CG. It's neither appropriate to Sonic or to the dark theme of this game. The Heroes CG might actually have looked better.

The unlockables:

Last story: Get all 10 endings.
Egg Vacuum: Clear neutral mode/get all chaos emeralds
Shadow Rifle: Beat Last story
Expert mode: Get all 71 A rankings.

BlazeHedgehog · Post by **BlazeHedgehog** » Fri Nov 18, 2005 6:56 am

I rather like the claymation style, actually. I think it's plenty fitting for Sonic style characters, and certainly feels a bit more inspired than previous CG artwork.

CM August · Post by **CM August** » Fri Nov 18, 2005 8:11 am

Frieza2000 wrote:Expert mode: Get all 71 A rankings.

Oh great, it's Sonic Heroes all over again. Nearly kill yourself getting A-Ranks on every tedious mission, to be rewarded with... Hard Mode.

One Classy Bloke · Post by **One Classy Bloke** » Fri Nov 18, 2005 12:23 pm

Got the GC version today, and i wish to retract my point about the control. It's a hell of a lot better on the GC than on the Xbox.