NiGHTS: JoD is LAAAAME
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Once you beat the game and can play through the missions without having to watch any of those piss poor cut-scenes ever again, the game becomes much much more bearable. Dare I say even fun?
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...that's about how the Shadow game is. Heroes too for that matter. Huh.Radrappy wrote:Once you beat the game and can play through the missions without having to watch any of those piss poor cut-scenes ever again, the game becomes much much more bearable. Dare I say even fun?
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That one's alright, but I personally use the latest version because of the fixes and improved compatibility/ efficiency of the virtual SCSI drive. But, y'know, taking down the AIDSware before it finds its way into my PC.Mep wrote:I edited the link to go to the older version. Its all good right?
And the few cutscenes that I watched of JoD were so horrendously hideous, they looked funny. I'd probably also play it without them after beating the game, but then I'd end up watching them again just to laugh out loud a little.
Yeah, I'm that of a twisted bastard.
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Man, the next games might be Wii exclusive too. Or maybe he meant that they would develop a sequel to Journey of Dreams on the Wii and other unrelated NiGHTS games on other platforms?... yeah, right.
Actually, I shouldn't pay much attention to whatever Iizuka says, but you see, this place's fuckin' barren.
Actually, I shouldn't pay much attention to whatever Iizuka says, but you see, this place's fuckin' barren.
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So with, what, ten years of only one NiGHTS game, we're suddenly faced with a potential deluge?
That seems rather odd, but this IS Iizuka we're talking about. =/
That seems rather odd, but this IS Iizuka we're talking about. =/
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With launch-week sales of under 20,000 units in both Japan and North America, I don't think we're in any danger of there ever being another Nights game.
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A good commercial game is not made by only one guy, Ok?Yami CJMErl wrote:So with, what, ten years of only one NiGHTS game, we're suddenly faced with a potential deluge?
That seems rather odd, but this IS Iizuka we're talking about. =/
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A moot point. Iizuka's been "Director" of HOW many failures at SEGA again?
NO, seriously, I lost count.
NO, seriously, I lost count.

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I could be wrong, but I think Sonic Heroes and Shadow the Hedgehog sold well enough to get Player's Choice/Greatest Hits/Platinum Hits. Except Shadow didn't get any Platinum Hits.
I haven't played Journey of Dreams, but if the general impressions are true then that's three games of questionable quality under his belt as a director/producer.
I haven't played Journey of Dreams, but if the general impressions are true then that's three games of questionable quality under his belt as a director/producer.
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Wait, Iizuka wasn't responsible for SONIC 2006? 

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Shun Nakamura. But Iizuka was involved enough to sit atop the Special Thanks.
On that note, I just found out the other day that he and Akinori Nishiyama worked voice acting direction (something like it anyway) on Riders. Could someone check if he's had his nails dug into Gems Collection too?
On that note, I just found out the other day that he and Akinori Nishiyama worked voice acting direction (something like it anyway) on Riders. Could someone check if he's had his nails dug into Gems Collection too?
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Can you imagine being handed that sort of backhanded compliment? Granted, no one of any consequence would ever actually play the whole thing to see the end credits, but I still think I'd consider jumping off of a cliff. It'd be like getting a gold star from Stalin!FlashTHD wrote:Shun Nakamura. But Iizuka was involved enough to sit atop the Special Thanks.
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But the CG movies are outsourced to a seperate company, which means the staff is shit throughout!
With the exception of the composer(s), anyway.
With the exception of the composer(s), anyway.
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Let's not forget the management kooks, whoever they are. Too bad what role they have in making things suck is a little harder to confirm.
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From somebody who apparently has connections inside Sega, the ones royally screwing everything up are the Japanese execs. Not Sonic Team, not even Iizuka. The executives of Sega of Japan are just flat-out incompetent. They're the ones who demanded that NiGHTS talk, they're the ones who impose the ridiculous deadlines, they're the ones who've effectively been dragging Sonic to his grave. Essentially, these guys see what's in other games and think that a game MUST have these features in them, or else the game is crap... ignoring that extremely well-done games in the past lacked any voice-acting or cutscenes to speak of. Ignoring that NiGHTS was never about stupid platforming segments or a mission-based structure. Ignoring that adding these features where they're ultimately unnecessary may HURT the game instead of help it. They don't care! It's another bullet on the back of the box-art, and that extra feature will gain them millions! Who the hell cares if it makes the game worse?
But of course, saying you have connections inside a company is the oldest trick in the book, so take it as you will.
But of course, saying you have connections inside a company is the oldest trick in the book, so take it as you will.
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Even assuming this is true (which it probably is), hasn't incompetent executives always been Sega's problem? It's somewhat reversed from what it was before, but it's still the same old story. The old bad execs were terrible at marketing and business decisions but handled the games well enough. The new bad execs are good at marketing and seem to be playing the field well enough as a developer/publisher, just terrible at handling game development.Shadow Hog wrote:From somebody who apparently has connections inside Sega, the ones royally screwing everything up are the Japanese execs. Not Sonic Team, not even Iizuka. The executives of Sega of Japan are just flat-out incompetent.
Really, the Sega-Sammy merger should have never taken place. It kept Sega from going out of business, but it it merely delayed the inevitable. It seems to me Sega-Sammy is more likely to become a pure publisher before it's execs actually heed critical and fan reaction.
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That company being Blur Studio, who made A Gentleman's Duel. Which was awesome.Ritz wrote:But the CG movies are outsourced to a seperate company,
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Oh look, I'm back. I'm posting cause Segaholic yelled at me.
Anyway, this game sucks hairy diseased twat. I'm going to pretend this game doesn't exist, so my fond memories of NiGHTS aren't tarnished by this ugly, poorly controlling mess.
OK, that's all I have to say. I'll see you guys in a year or something when I feel like posting again.
Anyway, this game sucks hairy diseased twat. I'm going to pretend this game doesn't exist, so my fond memories of NiGHTS aren't tarnished by this ugly, poorly controlling mess.
OK, that's all I have to say. I'll see you guys in a year or something when I feel like posting again.