Could an SatAM/Archie character work in a Sonic game?

BlazeHedgehog · Post by **BlazeHedgehog** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 2:30 pm

And then you have J. Axer catching heat because he drew Nack (and eventually Sally, as she stole it from Nack) wielding a realistic, (albiet purple) revolver.

Shows how good the editors are at catching that stuff!

DBurraki · Post by **DBurraki** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 2:46 pm

OH DEAR

I have to agree that Spaz's Sonic X covers are pretty ace, though I have to say I'm pretty found of the 'classic' style covers he did for the achieve series.

I mean it's pretty bizarre seeing SatAM/Archie characters that style, but... somehow he pulls it off and it doesn't look retarded.

WW · Post by WW » Wed Mar 28, 2007 2:47 pm

Knuckles certainly looks retarded. =p

DBurraki · Post by **DBurraki** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 2:51 pm

Yeah, but he looks like that on one of the classic images too (I think). I wouldn't pin that on Spaz, as I'm assuming he used those images for reference and only wanted to be accurate...

Opa-Opa · Post by **Opa-Opa** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 2:56 pm

Look! It's the Egg-Robo!

And, yeah, Julie-su sucks. Along with half of that stupid echidna civilization. I think what I hated the most were the names. They had such human and pompous names. And the most different names were those that sounded stupid, like Julie-su or Lara-su.

Actually, since there is no Sonic Archie Comics here (we had them for one year and it failed miserably), I only got to read them later after downloading some scans. So I spent, like, 7 years or such believing that Julie-su was a fan character.

Shadow Hog · Post by **Shadow Hog** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 3:00 pm

I hardly blame you for that, all things considered.

WW wrote:Knuckles certainly looks retarded. =p

Nonsense, he's just chargin' his lazer.

WW · Post by WW » Wed Mar 28, 2007 3:07 pm

I dunno, I don't think it translates very well.

Yami CJMErl · Post by **Yami CJMErl** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 3:14 pm

That's because the eyes aren't googly enough and the mouth is half-closed.

This actually reminds me of this one pic from that Sonic Screen Saver collection that showed Knux pointing and laughing at something Sonic did...

DBurraki · Post by **DBurraki** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 3:15 pm

So close and yet so far.

... and yeah I hate the echidna's names too (and everything else about them). All the females have hyphens in their names, and... that's just annoying. And now I'm suddenly amused by the thought of an echidna named "Sara-Lee".

Locit · Post by **Locit** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 3:43 pm

Where the hell are his teeth?

Opa-Opa · Post by **Opa-Opa** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 3:48 pm

Probably in a glass full of water.

cjmcray · Post by **cjmcray** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:31 pm

Picked up the SatAM boxset today.

Review Here

CM August · Post by **CM August** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 1:23 am

You use a lot of terminology that isn't even present in the cartoon. Zone of Silence? King of Acorns? I know you probably didn't notice, but it demonstrates more than ever that Archie does influence people's perception of the show.

I don't even know what you're talking about with the mention of love triangles, there's really no romantic competition to speak of. The talk of emo and melodrama also sound out of place, as emotional moments only cropped up during the occasional robotization or reunion scene, in other words pretty intense moments. But your outlook does make sense since apparently the characters weren't fake enough.

Other than that it was a fine review. My favorite bit was about the DVD features.

I'm not sure if you wanted feedback/discussion or not; if you didn't, I'll delete or edit this post accordingly.

cjmcray · Post by **cjmcray** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 4:00 am

CM August wrote:You use a lot of terminology that isn't even present in the cartoon. Zone of Silence? King of Acorns? I know you probably didn't notice, but it demonstrates more than ever that Archie does influence people's perception of the show.

I don't even know what you're talking about with the mention of love triangles, there's really no romantic competition to speak of. The talk of emo and melodrama also sound out of place, as emotional moments only cropped up during the occasional robotization or reunion scene, in other words pretty intense moments. But your outlook does make sense since apparently the characters weren't fake enough.

Other than that it was a fine review. My favorite bit was about the DVD features.

I'm not sure if you wanted feedback/discussion or not; if you didn't, I'll delete or edit this post accordingly.

Thanks for the critique. I was hoping for some comments on it, so thanks.

Sorry for the error about the Zone of Silence, I haven't watched all the episodes on the set yet, and I recall an episode inwhich Sonic and Sally tried to rescue her dad from some Zone, and I assumed it was the Zone of Silence.

And there were love triangles. Sonic/Antione/Sally?

Of course, it was more comical here, and nothing like the Geoffrey/Sally/Sonic crap Archie pulled. I guess I still have Archie in my head when reviewing this.

Thanks for the comments!

Vector · Post by **Vector** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:09 am

DBurraki, those look incredible. I'd actually LIKE seeing those versions in a game, even though I don't like SatAM. Not as playables, of course, but perhaps a cameo NPC in an adventure stage or bonus game like in Sonic Spinball. No new characters, and so on, you know.

Post by **Pepperidge** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:29 am

Of course, no matter how closely Spaz nails the classic Sonic look, Archie still refuses to acknowledge that Sonic had buckles on his shoes prior to Sonic Adventure.

Shadow Hog · Post by **Shadow Hog** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:55 am

cjmcray wrote:Of course, it was more comical here, and nothing like the Geoffrey/Sally/Sonic crap Archie pulled.

Correction: Geoffrey/Sally/Sonic/Amy/Mina/Ash/Fiona/Tails/Scourge crap Archie pulled.

DBurraki · Post by **DBurraki** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 12:19 pm

Pepperidge wrote:Of course, no matter how closely Spaz nails the classic Sonic look, Archie still refuses to acknowledge that Sonic had buckles on his shoes prior to Sonic Adventure.

Aren't they on the 'out' side of his shoes though? Both those pictures show the 'in' side, where he doesn't have buckles...?

Shadow Hog wrote:
cjmcray wrote:Of course, it was more comical here, and nothing like the Geoffrey/Sally/Sonic crap Archie pulled.
Correction: Geoffrey/Sally/Sonic/Amy/Mina/Ash/Fiona/Tails/Scourge crap Archie pulled.

+Antoine/Evil Antoine (Patches)/Rouge/Locke/Bunnie/ ...

Arcade · Post by **Arcade** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 5:23 pm

Sonic the comic online (yes again):

http://www.stconline.co.uk/

Is recommend that you read the Ã¢â‚¬Å“Back issuesÃ¢â‚¬ï¿¾ (http://www.stconline.co.uk/back) first, or it can get confusing...

Opa-Opa · Post by **Opa-Opa** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 7:55 am

Dr. Zachary? Sounds like Archie...

Rob-Bert · Post by **Rob-Bert** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 9:08 am

At least he was the only Echidna there besides Knuckles.

Actually, I think they were trying to copy Archie when they thought him up. I think he turned out better then anything they churned out Knuckles-wise.

Black Rook · Post by **Black Rook** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 2:18 pm

Incidentally, what's the deal with Finitevus, Archie's own ripoff of Zachary? I've read a few issues, and at most he seems to be just another generic evil Dark Legion guy, except visually different.

I still can't wrap my head around the name. "Dr. Finitevus" doesn't exactly roll off the tongue.

Opa-Opa · Post by **Opa-Opa** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 4:13 pm

Again, all echidna names suck except Knuckles.

Rob-Bert · Post by **Rob-Bert** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 4:36 pm

I thought the Kneecapreon/Kneecaps thing was kinda funny.

CM August · Post by **CM August** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 5:53 pm

Black Rook wrote:Incidentally, what's the deal with Finitevus, Archie's own ripoff of Zachary? I've read a few issues, and at most he seems to be just another generic evil Dark Legion guy, except visually different.

Right now he's a means of banding a lot of third-rate villains under one leader. Yeah, I don't know what people see in him either.

Now, in one of the recent issues Finitevus declares to bring back Enerjak. Either this will mean Dimitri can say goodbye to years of character development, or Finitevus will assume the name and identity of Enerjak. I have problems with both directions.