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Light Speed · Post by **Light Speed** » Thu Nov 25, 2004 1:47 pm

Esrever wrote:I think you'll see it happen gradually as the current generation of academics and intellectuals drops dead.

I still don't think so. Most games are just Tomb Raider.

Post by **Delphine** » Thu Nov 25, 2004 3:55 pm

Light Speed wrote:
Esrever wrote:I think you'll see it happen gradually as the current generation of academics and intellectuals drops dead.
I still don't think so. Most games are just Tomb Raider.

Yeah, but most movies are crap and most art is crap and most writing is crap, &c. &c. &c. That doesn't make it an invalid artform, it just means you have to find the good stuff.

Zeta · Post by **Zeta** » Thu Nov 25, 2004 5:22 pm

I still don't think so. Most games are just Tomb Raider.

And most movies are still shit like "National Treasure". What's your point?

Grant · Post by **Grant** » Thu Nov 25, 2004 8:16 pm

Green Gibbon! wrote:Another major problem, though, is the mainstream's total domination of the medium. In other mediums you always have experimental and independent markets, but that's something that the game industry still lacks. It really is early, though, even cinema didn't evolve to the point of sprouting an independent market until the 40's.

I agree, I think this is the biggest reason that games haven't really been accepted in the Arts community quite yet. It's more than just a generation gap (though that is a factor), and Light Speed isn't totally off base with his comment.

We just need more developers to really push the envelope and take advantage of the unique advantages that video games offer over books or movies.

They're on their way, though, and I have faith that in a few decades games'll be just as well regarded.

Post by **Esrever** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 11:38 am

I think you'll see a really strong independent games movement emerge, but mostly on the PC. At least, at first. Online delivery is really going to change things... by reducing the delivery cost and eliminating the need for a traditional distribution structure. It's going to be a lot easier for small developers to afford going it alone.

j-man · Post by **j-man** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 3:32 pm

Pantie shots!

Sorry, I'm still firmly on page 1. What's the topic now?

Post by **Segaholic2** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 3:40 pm

Art, or something retarded like it.

j-man · Post by **j-man** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 3:56 pm

Aren't pantie shots art?

Post by **Green Gibbon!** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 4:19 pm

Online delivery is really going to change things... by reducing the delivery cost and eliminating the need for a traditional distribution structure.

Speaking of, I wonder what's happening with the Phantom these days.

Post by **Crazy Penguin** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 4:51 pm

j-man wrote:Aren't pantie shots art?

Only if they're in black and white.

Locit · Post by **Locit** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 5:08 pm

Speaking of, I wonder what's happening with the Phantom these days.

I beleive they're about $26 million in the hole, if I remember correctly.

Post by **Green Gibbon!** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 6:06 pm

Really? When'd that happen?

Locit · Post by **Locit** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 6:11 pm

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=5643

Make that a $27 million loss.

But that doesn't mean you can't buy a Phantom thong.

http://www.cafepress.com/cp/browse/Nao- ... 29144_nr-1

Classy.

j-man · Post by **j-man** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 7:25 pm

Only if they're in black and white.

...emo pantie shots? I think I just came.

Rez