Popcorn wrote:And they've got the Sonic model all wrong. He's too cute and dumpy, too mid-90s CG. If they're going for a classic look, I'd have preferred Sega to model it off the Sonic 2 title screen, not the Sonic 3 one. (Did anyone like that Sonic 3 title screen?) It annoys and depresses me that the fans are being so easily seduced by this cheap imitation, this cynical appeal to our emotional triggers. Why do we want this, exactly? We already have the classic games, and they're better.
I came to that conclusion some time ago. The best solution I could think of was to split the franchise among multiple continuities. I might be wrong about I think there are four different directions fans want the series to go. It seems to me that fans either want the character to go back to the early 90s and stay there, the return of sonic adventure 1/2's dramatic storylines and continuity, a reboot of sat am or to stay the course.I think you hit on it right the second time, Pop... there probably is no pleasing all the fans, but it's definitely SEGA's fault for fragmenting them so thoroughly.
Esrever wrote:We all want different things out of Sonic. Pop, I think you in particular want a very specific thing. And that thing is never, ever going to happen again, so I sure don't blame you for losing interest entirely.
M.C.Dillinger wrote:The best solution I could think of was to split the franchise among multiple continuities.
Popcorn wrote: I think there's still a great 3D Sonic that's yet to be made. Naturally I have my own crackpot ideas about what such a game might involve, but this forum has given too much space to such nonsense already. I will say, however, that I think it should be possible to capture the essence of the character and simultaneously produce a classy, exciting - perhaps even definitive - new experience without resorting to gimmickry or nostalgia.
Popcorn wrote:Well, I don't want any new games at all like the ones we already have, if that's what you mean. For me, 2D Sonic was done with S3K, but I think there's still a great 3D Sonic that's yet to be made.
Esrever wrote:Just stick to the core themes, make it fun to play, and surprise me with everything else. That's what I want.
Popcorn wrote:Not even feeling, like, anger or disgust, just feeling... totally numb. Like: this is beyond me.
Cuckooguy wrote:I only started on Metal Gear Solid 4 a couple days ago...
Popcorn wrote:I was completely nonplussed. A unique sensation of recognising something and yet finding it completely unrecognisable. I don't know if I've ever had a sensation of going from total brand loyalty to complete disconnect... so different from playing [...] and thinking "this sucks! I'm gonna post on the internet about it!" - nothing so passionate as that. Not even feeling, like, anger or disgust, just feeling... totally numb. Like: this is beyond me.
I'm getting old.
Esrever wrote:I want to see more games like Colours -- not, like, more games in space with colourful aliens, but more games that successfully mesh Sonic's traditional themes of speed, platforming and exploration with fun, unique new settings and ideas. It's OK if they don't feel exactly like the originals. It's OK if the physics are different, or if Sonic slides instead of rolls, or if there is a level with a giant hamburger. I don't think that violates the integrity of the character. Just stick to the core themes, make it fun to play, and surprise me with everything else. That's what I want.
Popcorn wrote:Cuckooguy wrote:I only started on Metal Gear Solid 4 a couple days ago...
I actually only got round to finishing that a month ago. I started it a year before, but jesus, those opening hours are dull... and the rest isn't a huge improvement. It's an underdeveloped overproduced pile of shite. I used to give Kojima a free pass with absurd cut scenes, but this time he really screwed the pooch.
Tsuyoshi-kun wrote:On Generations itself - it look nice, but it it looks like a rental game and not a first-day-buy type of game. Anyone else feel this way? It's cool and all how there's a lot of old tunes in the game, but cool tunes didn't help Heroes.
Gaz wrote:Sonic Generations seems to have achieved a level of mega-hype I haven't seen a Sonic game get in a long while.
gr4yJ4Y wrote:Gaz wrote:Sonic Generations seems to have achieved a level of mega-hype I haven't seen a Sonic game get in a long while.
I went to my local GameStop last night to pick up Uncharted 3 (don't ask me to explain why I didn't just wait until this morning) and there were only 3 people there for it (including myself). There was also 3 people there to pick up Sonic Generations.
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