Sonic Generations

[Radrappy]

well, don't even need to play the game now.

[Crazy Penguin]

Seeing as the two playable characters are Classic Sonic and Modern Sonic, shouldn't it ideally have been a 50/50 split? 3 out of 9 stages and 2 out of 6 bosses doesn't really cut it. It's also a shame that they chose one of Sonic Adventure's least visually interesting levels, given how they were talking about the Dreamcast being its own era. As others have said, this choice of stages isn't as diverse as it could have been. It could work I suppose, if they add enough new elements to each one. I know I'd like to see Sonic run around the grass and background elements in Planet Wisp

Hopefully the Metal Sonic boss will be a remake of Stardust Speedway Zone 3 - that's the one part of Sonic CD everyone really wants to see represented.

I REALLY hope that's the classic versions of Vector, Espio and Charmy that Classic Sonic gets to race/team up with, but that's probably expecting way too much from Sega...

[Blount]

I think anything from Sonic Heroes feels redundant, because all of its level archetypes had already been used in the classic games, except maybe the haunted mansion theme. The same goes for Rooftop Run for more obvious reasons. Planet Wisp at least has the excuse of having been a Wii exclusive up to this point.

The level list almost makes it seem like SEGA is trolling whoever hacked into the game while they keep the real list a secret. It's amazing how a game that's supposed to encompass the entire Sonic history ends up with less visual variety than each game did individually.

[Radrappy]

The list is so back heavy it's not even funny. What IS hilarious is when you think about how excited people got imagining their favorite S1, 2, 3 &K, and Cd stages re-envisioned for HD when the concept of the game was first announced. If only they knew only three areas would even make it from that entire "era". hoho! Some poor slobs even put entire LISTS of megadrive levels together.

[Segaholic2]

:V

What the fuck is that thing on the right? The werehog?

[Crazy Penguin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nptj-9_cu8&t=00m42s

Fun.

[Radrappy]

the sonic heroes menu music is nice, but I really hope they bring back tunes like these

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWnmrb4K-A8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAsMY7CoCrk

they have such a beautiful nostalgic and reflective feeling. In a game about going fast , it's nice to be not assaulted by guitar riffs and fast paced tunes every now and again.

[Crowbar]

Man, I thought I was the only guy in the world who really liked the Sonic 3 save select theme.

The competition menu theme is very nice, too, even if it's quite simple.

[Radrappy]

are you kidding? It's one of the best sonic tracks of all time. It's why I cry every time I hear a crush 40 song. Even the music in colors, while good, was a bit over produced.

also, cutest fanart ever:

[Neo]

Great, now we already have 2 redundant city stages and 2 redundant Green Hill-type stages.

Pretty disappointing selection of levels but I'm not too surprised.

fuuuuuuuuuuuuck it's like they're doing it on purpose

It's amazing how a game that's supposed to encompass the entire Sonic history ends up with less visual variety than each game did individually.

Cream of the crop, no doubt about it.

[cjmcray]

I'm not thrilled about the level choices, but i'm relieved Death Egg will be used in some capacity. I hope It's a mixture of both the Sonic 2 and Sonic & Knuckles versions. Still pissed about the lack of Hydrocity and Lava Reef. =\

[G.Silver]

HAH! They are actually referring to Knuckles here by his nickname (according to the Japanese Sonic 3 manual), "Knuckle" (ナックル). Hell of an abbreviation. Don't forget, he also likes grapes!

[Zeta]

You know, just Casino Night as non-DLC would have been enough to get me enthusiastic about the game. As it stands . . . eh.

[Locit]

Don't forget, he also likes grapes!

I would never!

[Radrappy]

just so that we're all clear, everyone is aware the DLC is a casino night zone themed pinball minigame right?

[P.P.A.]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7eydtN8paE

[Team Mecha]

The list is so back heavy it's not even funny. What IS hilarious is when you think about how excited people got imagining their favorite S1, 2, 3 &K, and Cd stages re-envisioned for HD when the concept of the game was first announced. If only they knew only three areas would even make it from that entire "era". hoho! Some poor slobs even put entire LISTS of megadrive levels together.

That entire era was only 3 years long. This game is meant to cover all 20 of them. 1 zone per main game sounds pretty damn sensible to me & no, CD isn't a main game. Anyone that was honestly expecting half of S3&K needs a reality check. Besides, there's still the 3DS version with alternate zones.

[Blount]

Why is Sonic CD not a "main" game? It had different ideas going on and it came out on a different console than the rest of the series at the time, but I don't see how that's any different from Colors, which is being represented. If anything, the former had the debut of two main characters and was referenced by Sonic Adventure. That's got to count for something, right?

What the fuck is that thing on the right? The werehog?

Yes, but hopefully it's just a leftover from Unleashed or something.

[P.P.A.]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oweDMaH5TY

Huh, that footage of City Escape actually looks much, much better than what was seen in the trailer.

The remix is… pointless, though.

[Crowbar]

You know, watching through this video, I'm kind of struck by how weirdly inconsistent the attention to detail is. On the one hand, they not only replicate both the Sonic 2 and Sonic 3 waiting animations, but even animate a variation on the latter for when Sonic's facing left, so he doesn't tell you to go backwards. On the other hand, the spin dash is both badly designed (far too fast) and poorly programmed, the rings scatter in accordance with Modern Sonic physics, nobody did enough research to know that Classic Sonic should only be able to bounce off springs by actually jumping on top of them, loops behace weirdly, and so on. Even Sonic Rush had a sane (if largely useless) spindash and loop physics that let you exploit the old slope-jump technique to get more speed out of them.

By the way, he falls through the floor at 10:40.

[Locit]

We all remember you can pull come weird shit in the classics, right? That that didn't stop being a thing you could do? I'm not saying they shouldn't tighten up the graphics* a little bit but a 19-minute-long glitch-finding mission is, uh, well, it's probably pretty likely to find some glitches!

jooooooooke

[Crowbar]

PPA, what do you mean by "pointless"? Every level is going to have a different rendition of the music for Modern and Classic Sonic, so of course there's going to be a remix. If you're referring to the Endless Mine part, I guess it's a weird thing to include, but I'm not going to look such a neat bit bit of fan pandering in the mouth. My only complaint in general would be that it's debateable whether the remix as a whole is in line with the Classic musical style, and vocoding is bad.

[Crisis]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oweDMaH5TY

Huh, that footage of City Escape actually looks much, much better than what was seen in the trailer.

The remix is… pointless, though.

Oh my god! That looks like the most fun in a Sonic game since, well, the original SA2. I watched it 3 times in a row.

I thought the genral platforming and the use of the truck was really clever! The level looks extraordinarily well -balanced with multiple routes, rewards for keeping pace, and penalties for falling behind. There were no visible one-hit kills or bottomless pits. The truck feels like a legitimate threat rather than a visual feature. It really wants to kill Sonic now! The fact that it's not instant death, but the way it gradually destroys the stage if Sonic takes too long, creates quite a tense atmosphere. You need a mix of both the imminent threat of failure, as well as a means of escape, in order to capture that kind of emotion. It's a classic example of what's missing in the worst of the franchise's entries, which makes it all the more baffling that it's coming from the exact same team. I hope they learn from this game, even if they don't make a sequel.

It's a bit of a shame that the spin dash is so obviously broken. I'm hoping it'll get fixed before launch, but, well, this is Sonic Team.

[Radrappy]

That entire era was only 3 years long. This game is meant to cover all 20 of them. 1 zone per main game sounds pretty damn sensible to me & no, CD isn't a main game. Anyone that was honestly expecting half of S3&K needs a reality check. Besides, there's still the 3DS version with alternate zones.

That's funny because so far we've seen no representation of years 1994 -98. Nothing. No excuses.

Also isn't this the freaking problem with Sonic's history? That 3/4s of it ain't worth celebrating? Why would you want a game that's 3/4s shit no body cares about.

[Radrappy]

Oh my god! That looks like the most fun in a Sonic game since, well, the original SA2. I watched it 3 times in a row.

I almost spat out my milk. Really? Since SA2? Try since Sonic & Knuckles. You know, a game that was actually fun.