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You mean Pokemon?

Except that Dragon Quest started as a one character vs. the world. The second game introduces a party for the series. The third uses a class system which is a bit more complicated than the one in the first FF. The fourth has multiple scenarios through the view points of characters who will become your party to be when you finally play as the hero. The fifth chronicles the hero's life as a boy to a man, to a married man, to having children who will fight along your side, and it introduces recruting monsters as playable characters who would become the foundation of the DQ Monsters series. The sixth, I haven't played or read any info yet. The seventh reintroduces the class system in a much more complex manner and it has one of the longest intros in a RPG where it would be an hour or so until your first battle. And in eight you learn skills through assigning points to the PCs' attributes and there is also that alchemy pot.

Zeta wrote:Oh please, I can do the exact same thing with Pokemon. The second was damn near identical to the first, but many of its monsters lacked the charm of the first game's, with subsequent iterations taking this even further as well as making things needlessly complex.

Locit wrote:

Zeta wrote:Oh please, I can do the exact same thing with Pokemon. The second was damn near identical to the first, and I didn't like the new characters because I wasn't nostalgic about them and thought ideas like a ball with a face on it and a pile of living goo were original just because the series was new and I don't understand how the rules have changed because just having Alakazam kill everything stopped working.

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Zeta wrote:8 started out on thin ice and pretty much implodes into a black hole of nonsensical drivel about time travel and sorceresses and love stories and moons and eating time and reincarnation and memory loss and orphanages and colleges for mercenaries and giant moon platforms and catfronpeople and playing cards and contrivances after the first 20 minutes alone.

Crowbar wrote:Or were you trolling?

Ritz wrote:

Crowbar wrote:Or were you trolling?

I wasn't. I am, in actuality, very passionate about FFVIII, and it pains me to have to witness it endure such harsh and unfounded criticism from members of what I presumed to be a consortium of gamers with refined tastes.

That was borderline trolling, though.

Zeta wrote:

Locit wrote:

Zeta wrote:Oh please, I can do the exact same thing with Pokemon. The second was damn near identical to the first, and I didn't like the new characters because I wasn't nostalgic about them and thought ideas like a ball with a face on it and a pile of living goo were original just because the series was new and I don't understand how the rules have changed because just having Alakazam kill everything stopped working.

Fix'd!

Fix'd.

Now, for some real contribution to the topic: of the FF games re-made for the DS (3, 4, whatever else I don't know about), which one would be a potential good start/only pick for a beginner?

Zeta wrote: I would avoid four, since characters are constantly getting killed off or otherwise permanently removed from the party and that concept just sounds irritating. Imagine an Aeris event for EVERY PARTY member and you'll have some idea of how FF4 plays.

What makes 3 the pinnacle of the job system of this franchise as opposed to 5, Tactics, and X-2? I'm curious as I haven't played FF3DS yet, but I did play FF5 and the first Tactics, and I'm assuming the job system structure in those games are more advanced than that of FF3.

Well, that's not exactly how it works, and aside from the occasional useless sack of shit, most of your party members have a good amount of utility and you generally manage through it.

Zeta wrote:

Well, that's not exactly how it works, and aside from the occasional useless sack of shit, most of your party members have a good amount of utility and you generally manage through it.

Still feels like a title comprised of nothing but Guest Star Party members.