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debut trailer.
I like that the flickies are returning but what the fuck is up with the gameplay?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-sIkDWfccU

amazingly there appears to be no boosting and that this is a complete departure from what we've been playing for the past 5 years.

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I hope it's not an auto runner!

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Well, I'm intrigued at least.

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Cuckooguy wrote:I hope it's not an auto runner!
that's not funny.

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I like the return of the animal friends and the cartoony style. Really not sure what to make of the gameplay though.

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It almost looks like a revival of Sonic Xtreme.

I personally really love the design of those new bad guys.

I also noticed Sonic's running animation is the Super Peel Out.

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Obviously taking a big chunk of inspiration from Galaxy... amazing how much that makes it look like Sonic X-treme! It's really hard to get a vibe for exactly how the gameplay will feel from the trailer -- that kind of design looks like it would need to nail some pretty tight controls. But I like that they're doing something different this time. (And I like the art direction.)

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Don't look now but there's a sheep

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Looks kind of what I thought a 3D Sonic would look like before Adventure. I dig it. And those villains look pretty cool too!

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Looks like Chaotix's Special Stage cranked up to 11. I approve.

I'm not to keen on what appears to be a homing attack mashfest in places. At least boosting isn't central (or -- dare I dream? -- gone).

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I'm in two minds about this.

One the one hand, it's the 3D game we've all wanted: A 3D play ground where Sonic's speed is used to explore. There seems to be a few narrow strip sections but it looks like falling off will lead to another part of the stage.

The environments look, like Jingles noted, what I expected Adventure to be.

On the other hand, it's a bit disappointing that they have to borrow from Super Mario Galaxy to create a 3D environment with a focus on exploration. Still that's only a minor quibble.

It's great to see that the animal friends are back even if it is only 3 of them. However, are they supposed to now be residents of another planet? And they don't speak English anymore?

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Maybe the "Lost World" title is supposed to be sort of ironic?

Most of the Galaxy-ey parts look derivative from X-treme, so I can totally get past that. New bad guys don't do anything to me, neither like nor dislike 'em. I must say that I'm SICK of Green Hill Zone aesthetics by now, give it a rest Sega.
Radrappy wrote:
Cuckooguy wrote:I hope it's not an auto runner!
that's not funny.
Internet cold sweat? :P

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And they don't speak English anymore?
Did they ever?

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Isuka wrote:I must say that I'm SICK of Green Hill Zone aesthetics by now, give it a rest Sega.
Oh yes. How I've grown to despise checkerboard patterns.

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So,I'm not nearly as impressed by this as most people are.

I'm getting far more of a Sonic X-treme vibe than Mario Galaxy. What I mean by that is that the cylindrical stage design looks to primarily serve as a visual gimmick rather than an innovative gameplay experience. Sure there are a few moments where it looks like you'll be running up slopes to avoid obstacles, a la special stages of old, but that's not very new by any stretch.

When I look at this game just now I don't see creative energy, I see SA2's Green Hill Zone fed through a Sonic X-treme/Monkey ball filter.

Granted, if the main entry that had preceded this had been terrible, I'd understand why there was lots of positive buzz. I genuinely thought Generations was great though. I'm not saying I'd just want more of that, but I am saying that as a follow up to Generations, this doesn't really seem that impressive. It doesn't look bad by any stretch, but it isn't pushing my buttons!

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The impression I was left with was "let's drag Xtreme out of the closet and see how shamelessly derivative we can be while we're at it". Not particularly inspiring.

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So shortly after writing that (groan) I read this article.

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/05/28/s ... rio-galaxy

Sounds like there's more thought going into the gameplay changes than I initially may have thought. The discussion about regulating speed is interesting. The parkour system is potentially an excellent fix to the problems of running full speed, but also potentially a game breaker. We'll see how that turns out.
As mentioned, Sonic Team’s greatest challenge was maintaining a sense of speed for the series while finding controls that made sense. The result is now that, by default, Sonic doesn’t burst off with a tilt of the analog stick. He walks – until you use one of the GamePad’s triggers to engage his running speed. This too is actually not full speed. Holding down the second trigger will pull Sonic into a ball, giving him access to his full momentum, which Iizuka likened to the ‘Boost speed’ from previous titles. By creating a tiered structure to movement, Sonic Team is hoping players will be able to navigate the wide range of level designs, exploring and running as necessary

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Sounds a bit too complicated for a Sonic game's controls, but if that's what it takes for people to not lose control...
Jingles wrote:Oh yes. How I've grown to despise checkerboard patterns.
I never said that. They're reusing the ENTIRE aesthetics, not just the checkerboard patterns.

Don't know about you, but I don't like every game featuring the same damn stage over and over and over and fucking over again. And no, it's not enough that it has a tweak or two.

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I don't think it's THAT wholesale of a Green Hill skin. It's derivative, but I think this feels like as much of a new spin on the old checkerboard hills trope as Emerald Hill, Palmtree Panic and Seaside Hill did. It helps that they are taking that tired aesthetic and wrapping it around a totally different (and frankly, kind of bizarre looking!) physical structure. It's the same sort of making-the-familiar-look-unfamiliar maneuver that Galaxy did.

Anyhow, the other level described in the article is a desert full of food, so I guess they're not going to lean on history for the rest of the environments. (At least, not Sonic's history.) It also says the Wisp powers are coming back, which makes sense, because these guardian guys look like an extension of their art direction.

Really curious to go hands-on with the different control scheme. It's funny that this came up today, because just yesterday I just spent a three hour car ride with Tyson from Boxer Hockey talking about the pros and cons of introducing a Mario-styled run button. (I'd never really thought of it as an option before!)

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Isuka wrote:
Jingles wrote:Oh yes. How I've grown to despise checkerboard patterns.
I never said that. They're reusing the ENTIRE aesthetics, not just the checkerboard patterns.
Haha, yes, I was agreeing with you! I literally meant I had grown tired of those darned Green Hill Zone aesthetics.

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The parkour system sounds very much like the way Link would run up and climb walls in Skyward Sword, presumably without tiring after five seconds. I can imagine this working well.

I'm glad the Wisp powers are coming back, but I'm very sceptical about the touch screen controls - drawing the player's attention away from the TV screen doesn't sound like a good idea for a high speed action game. And would the player controlling Sonic be able to use Wisp powers at all in Support Mode?

I like the touch of the animals popping out of robots again, and that they'll be tied to some kind of gameplay system. Along with the Red Star Rings and Wisp powers it sounds like there'll be a real focus on finding secrets rather than just finishing the stages.

Also, more screenshots: http://uk.ign.com/images/games/sonic-lo ... 8b3250e224

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I actually got a little motion sickness from that trailer. Doesn't matter, since I don't own a wii. I do think the game does look pretty cool though and wish the game came out on other systems.

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I really think it looks cool too. It's a shame I'm not planning to splurge for a Wii U in the near future.

I like the aesthetic, but it looks a bit more, uh, Nintendo-y than I expected. Take out the corkscrews and the loop-de-loops, and the setting wouldn't look terribly out of place in your typical Mario or Kirby game. Not that there's necessarily anything wrong with that.

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Eh. I'm not liking the screenshots so far.. it's too cute, and way too much like Mario. And Sega, please, stop rehashing Green Hill!

I'll check out the trailer later tonight, but so far I am very unimpressed.

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Press Release
Rise Against The Deadly Six
Platforms
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And a little bit about the storyline on the Sega Blog.
Dr. Eggman has harnessed the power of six menacing creatures collectively known as the Deadly Six, but when the Deadly Six rise up against their master, Sonic has to unite with his arch nemesis in order to take on the new enemies head-on. Using his dynamic new parkour moves and improved Color Powers, Sonic must run, jump and race through a variety of ever-changing terrains in order to defeat the Deadly Six.

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