Here be dragons

Speak your mind, or lack thereof. There may occasionally be on-topic discussions.
User avatar
Radrappy
Posts: 1329
Joined: Wed May 26, 2004 10:53 pm
Now Playing: MvC3, Vanquish, Skies of Arcadia Legends
Contact:

Here be dragons

Post by Radrappy »

I know a lot of you are animation nuts. "How to Train your Dragon" comes out tomorrow and I've got to say I'm pretty stoked for it. I'm a pretty big fan of lilo and stitch and hope the directing duo of Sanders and Deblois can pull it off again. I'll definitely post my impressions when I catch a screening. How about you guys? Excited?!

User avatar
Crowbar
Posts: 680
Joined: Fri Jul 25, 2008 7:40 pm

Re: Here be dragons

Post by Crowbar »

I've not really been terribly interested in Dreamworks' stuff for a while. I actually got a bit of an advance preview of this over a year ago (I think?) when Shelly Page visited my uni and showed some stuff from it. It didn't look very special to me then.

What, if anything, sets it apart in your eyes? Dreamworks have always seemed to me to mostly just do blander, derivative versions of Disney/Pixar films (which are often pretty bland to start with...). The only Dreamworks film (other than Aardman co-productions) I've been able to convince myself to watch in the last few years is Kung Fu Panda, which had some decent action sequences but that was about it.

User avatar
Arcade
Posts: 1045
Joined: Thu Feb 02, 2006 9:55 pm

Re: Here be dragons

Post by Arcade »

Well they did Toy story, Seeking Nemo and the Incredibles, but you know for the start this isnt going to be a great movie, right?

User avatar
Crowbar
Posts: 680
Joined: Fri Jul 25, 2008 7:40 pm

Re: Here be dragons

Post by Crowbar »

Arcade wrote:Well they did Toy story, Seeking Nemo and the Incredibles, but you know for the start this isnt going to be a great movie, right?
XD

User avatar
Arcade
Posts: 1045
Joined: Thu Feb 02, 2006 9:55 pm

Re: Here be dragons

Post by Arcade »

Oh right that was PIxar... Whats so great about Dreamworks? Antz and that was done more than ten years ago...

And maybe the first Shrek movie, but thats alll...

User avatar
Segaholic2
Forum God
Posts: 3516
Joined: Fri May 21, 2004 11:28 am
Now Playing: Your mom

Re: Here be dragons

Post by Segaholic2 »

Not a fan of Dreamworks. Conversely, Pixar is one of my favorite companies ever.

Rob-Bert
Posts: 849
Joined: Sun Mar 04, 2007 12:52 pm
Location: Here, not there.
Contact:

Re: Here be dragons

Post by Rob-Bert »

While I'm pretty happy we're getting another giant reptile movie for the first time in a while and applaud the whole Norse setting they have going on, I'd wager a dollar to a donut this'll end up being the standard Dreamworks schlock.

User avatar
Dr. BUGMAN
Posts: 1526
Joined: Wed Sep 17, 2008 11:18 am
Now Playing: Poverty

Re: Here be dragons

Post by Dr. BUGMAN »

Dragons kind of lost their mysticism once I encounter losers that use them as sexual identities. Or identities at all, really.

User avatar
Radrappy
Posts: 1329
Joined: Wed May 26, 2004 10:53 pm
Now Playing: MvC3, Vanquish, Skies of Arcadia Legends
Contact:

Re: Here be dragons

Post by Radrappy »

I don't think Dreamworks actually has any of their fans over 10 years old. That being said, this is being directed by the guys that made Lilo and Stitch! Surely that warrants some excitement. If you at all enjoyed kung fu panda, why shouldn't this film be potentially of the same caliber? It's doing extremely well critically and everyone that's seen the full movie in advance claims it's really something special.
Dr. BUGMAN wrote:Dragons kind of lost their mysticism once I encounter losers that use them as sexual identities. Or identities at all, really.
hey man, the same thing plagues the sonic fandom.

User avatar
G.Silver
Drano Master
Posts: 2750
Joined: Sat May 22, 2004 12:58 am
Now Playing: Radiant Silvergun, Wario World
Location: warshington
Contact:

Re: Here be dragons

Post by G.Silver »

I was completely ambivalent about it until I read right here about who was making it. I guess Dreamworks can't really go around saying that on their trailers and instead are all like "From the People who make Shrek!" like that is somehow desirable.

I guess these two have been working on Lilo & Stitch non-stop since 2002? How is the TV series?

User avatar
Dr. BUGMAN
Posts: 1526
Joined: Wed Sep 17, 2008 11:18 am
Now Playing: Poverty

Re: Here be dragons

Post by Dr. BUGMAN »

Do you like Pokemon? Do you really like Pokemon. Do you wake up in the morning thinking "hey, I want to watch Pokemon set in Hawaii"?

The best (of course worst) part is how Stitch went from crazed, maniacal little stinker to completely bland. Yeah, I guess it makes sense that he'd mellow out after finding a loving family, but jeez.

User avatar
Esrever
Drano Master
Posts: 2981
Joined: Mon May 24, 2004 2:26 am
Contact:

Re: Here be dragons

Post by Esrever »

I don't think they were actually all that involved in the Lilo and Stitch franchise, other than Sanders continuing to provide Stitch's voice.

For a long time post-Lilo and Stitch, Sanders was working as the director for "American Dog"... a Disney CG picture that was eventually retooled into Bolt. (Sanders was kicked off the project and moved to Dreamworks as a result.)

User avatar
Zeta
Posts: 4444
Joined: Wed May 26, 2004 11:06 am
Contact:

Re: Here be dragons

Post by Zeta »

Am I the only one who finds the Lilo and Stitch franchise mediocre?

Although I have to admit Kevin McDonald playing a gay alien still makes me chuckle.

User avatar
Green Gibbon!
BUTT CHEESE
Posts: 4648
Joined: Fri May 21, 2004 11:39 am
Now Playing: Bit Trip Complete
Location: A far eastern land across the sea
Contact:

Re: Here be dragons

Post by Green Gibbon! »

Stitch is bullshit popular over here. He's by far and away the most prevalent Disney character I've seen on this side of the ocean - he's even topped Pooh. That white kitten from the Aristocats also turns up surprisingly often. Japanese teenage girls love their obscure Disney.


I haven't watched or been motivated to watch any Dreamworks films since the first Shrek. The previews for How to Train Your Dragon don't make it look like it's going to be the one to buckle the trend of calculated mediocrity. But I didn't really like Lilo & Stitch, either.

User avatar
Neo
Posts: 974
Joined: Mon Jun 19, 2006 6:18 pm
Location: Portugal

Re: Here be dragons

Post by Neo »

Am I the only one whose brain shuts off at the sight of a 3D CG movie? It was kind of a novelty when they first came out, I mean, I went to see Toy Story, but none of them really did anything for me, so I just stopped caring.

It's actually surprising that the forum didn't crap itself out.

User avatar
gr4yJ4Y
Posts: 1366
Joined: Wed Jun 09, 2004 10:14 am
Now Playing: Breath of the Wild (Switch), Resident Evil VII (PS4)
Location: Crescent Knoll

Re: Here be dragons

Post by gr4yJ4Y »

Dr. BUGMAN wrote:Dragons kind of lost their mysticism once I encounter losers that use them as sexual identities. Or identities at all, really.
I really had to think twice about actually clicking on this thread and reading it. I assumed it would be something I had no interest in.

User avatar
CM August
Posts: 697
Joined: Mon Jan 31, 2005 8:09 am
Location: Australia
Contact:

Re: Here be dragons

Post by CM August »

Green Gibbon! wrote:Stitch is bullshit popular over here. He's by far and away the most prevalent Disney character I've seen on this side of the ocean - he's even topped Pooh.
I'll say. Christ. It didn't matter where we were, if a store had a toy/trinket section you could find a Stitch item at the very least. I was tempted to buy a "Shinshu Stitch" towel as a novelty, but thought against it.

User avatar
Crowbar
Posts: 680
Joined: Fri Jul 25, 2008 7:40 pm

Re: Here be dragons

Post by Crowbar »

It's really that popular over there? I guess it is the only western cartoon that ever seems to make the top 10 in the TV rankings (according to ANN, which sources from Video Research).

User avatar
Green Gibbon!
BUTT CHEESE
Posts: 4648
Joined: Fri May 21, 2004 11:39 am
Now Playing: Bit Trip Complete
Location: A far eastern land across the sea
Contact:

Re: Here be dragons

Post by Green Gibbon! »

I'm kind of curious to know why all the hate for 3D. I thought the technology was interesting and I've been really curious to see how it works. Is it ineffective, too distracting, or what?

User avatar
G.Silver
Drano Master
Posts: 2750
Joined: Sat May 22, 2004 12:58 am
Now Playing: Radiant Silvergun, Wario World
Location: warshington
Contact:

Re: Here be dragons

Post by G.Silver »

I think it's all the ire that would normally be leveled at mediocre 2D animated products, but multiplied against the still-relatively-new 3D gimmick, and resentment that 2D animation has fallen by the wayside (and especially due to the possibility that the mainstream public prefers the 3D).

User avatar
Esrever
Drano Master
Posts: 2981
Joined: Mon May 24, 2004 2:26 am
Contact:

Re: Here be dragons

Post by Esrever »

I find the end results of 3D films to be really irregular... some shots will look cool, but others will just look flat or out of focus, or strobe or flicker violently.

Then there's the glasses, which I have to wear on top of my actual glasses, and -- this is the part I really hate -- have tinted lenses that noticeably reduce the brightness and colour vibrancy of the film.

And of course best of all, 3D movie tickets cost an extra four bucks! Which, of course, is the number one reason 3D gets slapped on to all these things. (Including movies that weren't even filmed in 3D to begin with!)

User avatar
Delphine
Horrid, Pmpous Wench
Posts: 4720
Joined: Fri May 21, 2004 1:05 pm
Now Playing: DOVAHKIIN
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Contact:

Re: Here be dragons

Post by Delphine »

DURF

But in all seriousness, CG is just another form of media, it can be either good or bad. I cry like a little bitch when I watch Up. Every damn time. The only Dreamworks CG film I enjoyed was Shrek, and I was never particularly attached to it, I just thought it was fun.

User avatar
Green Gibbon!
BUTT CHEESE
Posts: 4648
Joined: Fri May 21, 2004 11:39 am
Now Playing: Bit Trip Complete
Location: A far eastern land across the sea
Contact:

Re: Here be dragons

Post by Green Gibbon! »

Of course it's a brand new technology so there are still kinks that need to be ironed out, but I don't see it in the long run being any more of a gimmick than sound or color films. I think the main issue is focus. Of course in most shots the background elements will be out-of-focus which is probably pretty disorientating when you're trying to "look" instead of just, y'know "watch".

On the other hand, that's not an issue that games have since everything has to be in-focus all the time anyway. I'm pretty eager to see how effective it will be especially in games when 3D TV's go on sale.


Having all that said, I've yet to actually see this 3D tech first-hand, so maybe it's sheer curiosity talking.

User avatar
Opa-Opa
Posts: 1371
Joined: Sat Jun 26, 2004 3:14 am
Now Playing: The Red Ring of Death (X360)
Location: Rio de Janeiro
Contact:

Re: Here be dragons

Post by Opa-Opa »

Delphine wrote:I cry like a little bitch when I watch Up.
Damn that Pixar. I got that with Cars the other day.

Friggin' Cars!

User avatar
Zeta
Posts: 4444
Joined: Wed May 26, 2004 11:06 am
Contact:

Re: Here be dragons

Post by Zeta »

Blarg, Cars is easily their worst movie.

I hate it even more because I despise small-town America.

At the very least, I've heard that Cars 2 will not only be a true race movie, but will take place across all of Europe, so it might actually be watchable.

Post Reply