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Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 11:42 pm
In 1988, Namco released a quasi-obscure action/platform arcade game called Beraboh Man. It features a salaryman who turns into a super hero with elastic limbs and he fights a broccoli-haired villain with a jester outfit. As far as I am aware, this madness was not released outside Japan. (Not alot of people know that Taki's third outfit in Soul Calibur 2 is from Waza, a ninja girl in Beraboh Man.)
Okay, now here's my stupid question. I'm right at the start of the game and there's this guy floating in the air and I think he's giving me a tutorial. I pass a few simple obstacles and come to a set of concrete cylinders stacked on top of each other. I can't jump over them, I can't crawl through them, and I can't knock them out of the way. The floating guy is telling me something, but the damn fool is speaking in Japanese so we have a communication gap. I've been stuck at this part for the past five or six months. I would really like to play more of this game, and I know there's some extremely simple solution here that I am too stupid to grasp. Would somebody please help me?
Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 11:43 pm
You expect help, when probably 98% of English-speaking gamers have never even heard of the game?
Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 11:52 pm
Well, it's on mame! I know I can't be the only one here who downloads mame roms indiscriminately.
Silv, you've got mame, right? You'll be able to understand what the flying man is saying. Someone's got to help me, they don't cover this stuff on GameFAQs and I really want to play Beraboh Man!
Posted: Thu May 27, 2004 2:34 am
Couldn't just take a screen capture, eh?
The flying man (he says he is your ally, "Alpha Yuseijin!") commands you to "buttataku" the right button. "It's a big jump!" he says. tataku means to strike, and buttobase means (something along the lines of..) to really beat the shit out of someone, so I figure buttataku must mean to really strike that button, but I can't get anything out of it. Sometimes if you hold down the button while jumping, you kinda walk in the air for a second, but I can't get anything to happen besides that.
Actually, according to this flyer
you can get more range on your attack depending on how hard you hit the button. The same must apply for jumping, but I'm guessing this 1988 analog-equivilent functionality isn't being emulated.
Posted: Thu May 27, 2004 2:59 am
but I'm guessing this 1988 analog-equivilent functionality isn't being emulated.
Well... shit. I guess I'll just live my life without ever having played Beraboh Man.
They still haven't dumped Angel Eyes, either.
Posted: Thu May 27, 2004 4:00 am
Well, I figured out how to jump over those concrete cylinders.
Let's say there's button 1, button 2, button 3, and button 4.
Button 1 - attack
Button 2 - super attack
Button 3 - jump
Button 4 - super jump
Now, for whatever reason, they made it so you have to press button 2 first and then press button 1 simulatenously to super attack. So hold down button 2, and then button 1, and he'll do an attack that'll be farther than just the normal button 1 attack.
Now, if we apply these same controls to the jump, if you press button 3, then you'll do a normal jump. Holding onto button 4 and then pressing button 3 causes you to do a super jump.
I'm so smart.
Posted: Thu May 27, 2004 11:57 am
What Mame Emulator are you using? The one I used (just "MAME")has to be run from a command line and I can't find any documentation on what buttons do what (but it was the only one I saw that listed Beraboh as playable). From the game's tutorial, I assumed there were just the two of 'em.
Posted: Thu May 27, 2004 1:22 pm
I'm using mame 0.82, which is the newest version released a couple months ago. I still can't figure out how to get those stupid buttons programmed right, though. It's set to default to my control pad, but the super buttons don't seem to be working. I'm gonna have to mess with it a while, I guess.
Posted: Thu May 27, 2004 1:39 pm
Also, I'm playing revision C. Is there a difference between that and revision B?
Posted: Thu May 27, 2004 4:05 pm
Revision B's download was significantly smaller. I didn't think it would work when I installed it, there's only like one bin file in it. Maybe it's borrowing from the C version, but it's not like they share directories or something...
Other than that they seem to be the same, at least for the first three screens. :P
Posted: Thu May 27, 2004 4:57 pm
I use Mame32. The interface can be needlessly big (it lists every game in existence, it seems, and you have to scroll a lot to find the game you're looking for that you want to play, provided you have the rom), but I've had better luck with it than any other MAME emulator out there that I've tried.
Edit: I'm also playing Revision C
Posted: Thu May 27, 2004 5:21 pm
Yeah, mame 32 0.82. The game list is not well organized at all, but it's the easiest to work with.
I didn't think it would work when I installed it, there's only like one bin file in it. Maybe it's borrowing from the C version, but it's not like they share directories or something...
Yeah, that's how mame roms work to conserve space. If you've got different sets or different regions, there's one "parent" zip and the other zips need the parent zip to play. Or you can extract the parent files from the zip and move them into the child zips so they can play without the parent. I didn't figure this out until a few weeks ago because I'm an idiot, but apparently you still hadn't figured it out so I guess you're at least a few weeks stupider.
Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 2:13 am
You do realize you can set Mame32 so that it only shows the games you have, right?
Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 2:51 am
That's still alot of games to scroll through, at least in my case...
Anyway, I now understand why Beraboh Man is so obscure. It fucking blows. Like, it may be one of the worst games I've ever played. There's no rhyme or reason to anything, all you can do is fight the clunky control and run through shit until you run out of energy and die, then insert a coin and keep on running through more shit. And it keeps going and going and going... I got to somewhere around level 22 or 23 before I couldn't take anymore and closed the window. Thanks for nothing, Eggroll, I could've kept on living imagining it was as cool as it looked.
While we're on the subject, though, is it possible to change the region of NeoGeo games on mame? They all default to US region arcade. I have other NeoGeo-specific emulators that let me toggle between Japanese/US and arcade/console, but there are some games they don't run that mame does.
Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 3:11 am
Right click the Neo Geo game you wanna change the region to, go to properties, misc., and I think you can change the BIOS. So, theoretically, changing the BIOS to japanese would make the region to be Japanese.
Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 3:30 am
Is there a way to switch between arcade and console modes?
Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 3:55 am
No idea, sorry. Maybe you can't? MAME is supposed to be just an Arcade emulator, opposed to a full-out NeoGeo emulator.
Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 4:09 am
You thought the game actually looked cool? I didn't bother getting past level 1 (if you don't count the first practice level). I just wanted to sound smart by figuring out something you couldn't.
Since the topic is still about MAME, maybe someone can help me. There's a game titled Senkyu, and when it was domesticized, it was changed to the title "Battle Balls", which I think is a pretty fun puzzle game that's like a cross between Puyo Puyo and Bubble Bobble (I used to played it at a local arcade a lot).
Anyway, when I downloaded it and tried to play it in MAME32, it says "THIS GAME DOES NOT WORK PROPERLY", and when I play it, the graphics and sound are all messed up and shit (but it's still playable, and you have a basic idea of where everything, but not know exactly what it is).
Now, if it's impossible to fix something like this, then fine, but if anyone knows a solution, I'd be grateful. Is the "THIS GAME DOES NOT WORK PROPERLY" screen happen regularly with a lot of MAME roms? Or should I go out of my way to learn how to use another emulator?
Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 4:15 am
The "THIS GAME DOES NOT WORK PROPERLY" screen basically is telling you that whoever is working on the driver for the hardware for the game you're playing isn't done yet, and the game won't work right until the emulation is finished.
In other words: Try to find another emulator, but MAME is pretty much the premier arcade emulator, so chances are most others aren't going to run it either.
Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 4:20 am
Thank god for the GHZ. Otherwise I would never have known that some ancient arcade game I'd never heard of was really bad.
Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 12:44 pm
Otherwise I would never have known that some ancient arcade game I'd never heard of was really bad.
But the next time you're talking about Soul Calibur 2 with your friends, you can be all like: "Did you know Taki's third costume was taken from a character in a 1988 arcade game that was only released in Japan? The game absolutely sucks, by the way."
Cassandra's third costume is also from an old Namco game called Valkyrie Densetsu, but I believe that one was released in the US under a different title so most people catch it. Valkyrie Densetsu is better than Beraboh Man, but it gets freaking hard freaking fast.
That's what I love about emulators. I wonder if I'm the only person who's ever made the connection between Billy Hatcher and Doki Doki Penguin Land (which is equally mediocre).