The billion-dollar bat Returns

Speak your mind, or lack thereof. There may occasionally be on-topic discussions.
User avatar
cjmcray
Posts: 856
Joined: Sat Jul 29, 2006 5:12 pm

The billion-dollar bat Returns

Post by cjmcray »


User avatar
Cuckooguy
LEGEND
Posts: 761
Joined: Thu May 27, 2004 12:27 am
Now Playing: Sonic Generations 3DS, Asura's Wrath
Location: Southern California
Contact:

Re: The billion-dollar bat Returns

Post by Cuckooguy »

I find your opinions on this subject fascinating

User avatar
Dr. Watson
Posts: 210
Joined: Tue Nov 08, 2005 10:53 am
Location: Sweden

Re: The billion-dollar bat Returns

Post by Dr. Watson »

We all already knew another Batman movie was going to come out eventually, so its kinda hard to get really excited about these news when there is not a single word about the content of the movie. Personally, im still rooting for the Penguin to show up. "Not realistic enough" my foot. Just make him a mobster, a regular, realistic mobster with a somewhat long lose. And a monocle. And an umbrella that shoots bullets, fire and acid. And a giant rubber-duck-car. You know, that kind of mobster.

User avatar
Wombatwarlord777
Posts: 909
Joined: Sun Oct 26, 2008 11:07 am
Now Playing: WarioWare Gold
Location: Iowa, the 32nd best US state

Re: The billion-dollar bat Returns

Post by Wombatwarlord777 »

Well, he's a lot more realistic than Ivy or Freeze. The Penguin's just delightfully eccentric, that's all.

He'd be cool. But my money's on the Riddler- without green pajamas- this time around.

Anyways, fuck yes indeed.

User avatar
Zeta
Posts: 4444
Joined: Wed May 26, 2004 11:06 am
Contact:

Re: The billion-dollar bat Returns

Post by Zeta »

They'll probably pick a really lame villain like Black Mask.

User avatar
Majestic Joey
Posts: 512
Joined: Mon Oct 10, 2005 3:30 pm

Re: The billion-dollar bat Returns

Post by Majestic Joey »

I'm hoping for the Riddler.

User avatar
G.Silver
Drano Master
Posts: 2750
Joined: Sat May 22, 2004 12:58 am
Now Playing: Radiant Silvergun, Wario World
Location: warshington
Contact:

Re: The billion-dollar bat Returns

Post by G.Silver »

Is there something awesome about the Riddler that I just don't know because I'm unfamiliar with the comics? (I've been told that if I were more familiar with the comics, the last movie's Joker wouldn't have been so surprising--but that surprise was part of what made him so good!)

I don't see how they can do anything to top the previous movie unless they kill Batman or make him really old or something. It doesn't really matter who the villain is.

User avatar
M.C.Dillinger
Posts: 240
Joined: Sat Jun 03, 2006 1:47 pm
Now Playing: Persona 4 Golden/Megaman Maverick Hunter X/TF2
Location: Master Tails Doll comes from a place where such things are meaningless
Contact:

Re: The billion-dollar bat Returns

Post by M.C.Dillinger »

Unmentioned a criminal mastermind not satisfied with simply getting away with a crime. The Riddler has to announce his crimes to Batman, he "wins" if he creates the ultimate puzzle that the world's greatest detective cannot solve.

User avatar
Wombatwarlord777
Posts: 909
Joined: Sun Oct 26, 2008 11:07 am
Now Playing: WarioWare Gold
Location: Iowa, the 32nd best US state

Re: The billion-dollar bat Returns

Post by Wombatwarlord777 »

G.Silver wrote:I don't see how they can do anything to top the previous movie unless they kill Batman or make him really old or something. It doesn't really matter who the villain is.
That's the risk you take in sequels, I guess. Rather than trying to top Black Knight, I'd be pleased if this movie stood really well by itself.

Still... This is a totally subjective observation, but the recent trio of Spiderman movies really lost steam in the last installment. No matter how well this new Batman does, I just can't see it spawning another sequel.

User avatar
Malchik
Posts: 553
Joined: Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:27 pm
Now Playing: with myself

Re: The billion-dollar bat Returns

Post by Malchik »

Surprise? Spider man has two more installments in the works. And I think we can be assured that a Transformers 3 will break the box office again despite the series quality. Batman will sell tickets.

User avatar
j-man
All-Time Everything GHZ Award Winner
Posts: 3227
Joined: Thu Jun 03, 2004 3:07 pm
Now Playing: Sea of Friends
Location: Entirely Unmoving
Contact:

Re: The billion-dollar bat Returns

Post by j-man »

I think Riddler's a top choice. I'd like to see Bats doing more actual detecting, and less growling and punching mobsters.

User avatar
M.C.Dillinger
Posts: 240
Joined: Sat Jun 03, 2006 1:47 pm
Now Playing: Persona 4 Golden/Megaman Maverick Hunter X/TF2
Location: Master Tails Doll comes from a place where such things are meaningless
Contact:

Re: The billion-dollar bat Returns

Post by M.C.Dillinger »

Foolish and British person, you're asking Hollywood to make an intelligent movie.

User avatar
j-man
All-Time Everything GHZ Award Winner
Posts: 3227
Joined: Thu Jun 03, 2004 3:07 pm
Now Playing: Sea of Friends
Location: Entirely Unmoving
Contact:

Re: The billion-dollar bat Returns

Post by j-man »

Christopher Nolan is English, dickhole. Also, intelligent.

And I don't think "Hollywood" has had much of to say about anything since, like, the mid-forties.

User avatar
Zeta
Posts: 4444
Joined: Wed May 26, 2004 11:06 am
Contact:

Re: The billion-dollar bat Returns

Post by Zeta »

Is there something awesome about the Riddler that I just don't know because I'm unfamiliar with the comics? (I've been told that if I were more familiar with the comics, the last movie's Joker wouldn't have been so surprising--but that surprise was part of what made him so good!)
The Joker is basically ever serial killer ever made mixed in with Carrot Top.

The Riddler is about as intimidating as a CareBear. He's scared of the rest of Batman's villains and just wants to play puzzles with him. I don't even recall him
ever actually killing someone. You can't build a movie around him. It'd be like a Superman movie where he fought the Prankster. In fact, for the past couple of years, he's given up crime to become a detective.

User avatar
Majestic Joey
Posts: 512
Joined: Mon Oct 10, 2005 3:30 pm

Re: The billion-dollar bat Returns

Post by Majestic Joey »

at my old job I was a security guard and my dispatcher was a awesome comic book buff and we would pretty much just read comic books in dispatch. Anyways he was telling me how in one of the comics the Riddler discovered Batman's identity and threatened to tell everyone. But Batman just replied that, "it isn't a riddle if everybody knows the answer." And because of the Riddler's insane ego he never told anybody.

Then later he becomes a detective to show that he is twice the detective Batman is. Anyways he is just a egotistical asshole, which is why he is cool.

User avatar
cjmcray
Posts: 856
Joined: Sat Jul 29, 2006 5:12 pm

Re: The billion-dollar bat Returns

Post by cjmcray »

As previously mentioned in this thread, Riddler's a total wimp. Also, he's boring. No Riddler please.

TDK's sequel was intended to have Ledger return (He was contracted to star in two Batman movies before his death) I really want to see what The Joker's going to do now that he is locked up and his soulmate Batman is wanted for murder. Sure, Ledger was a great actor, but people didn't see TDK for Ledger, they saw it for the Joker. I'm sure Nolan could find an actor who can do a more-than-decent job with the role of the Joker. I don't want him to follow-up TDK with some dull villains like Black Mask, Riddler, Bane or Catwoman. As the Joker said in TDK "You and I are destined to do this forever."

User avatar
Forza Johnman
Posts: 175
Joined: Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:07 pm
Location: East Sussex, UK
Contact:

Re: The billion-dollar bat Returns

Post by Forza Johnman »

I am a bit surprised they haven't gone down the same route as Spiderman with name dropping. I would have thought Bullock and Montoya were going to be mentioned during the bits in the police station. But that's just me.

Also, isn't there a petition trying to persuade the producers of Batman 3, not to recast The Joker? Which I hope falls on deaf ears because there seems to be a story to tell. Plus I wouldn't mind minor villains turning up again as cannon fodder for Batman, as long as they don't end up "breaking the bat" as it were.

Personally I wouldn't mind Penguin, Catwoman or Riddler being brought in for the sequel, probably not as the main villain though. Riddler would make for interesting viral marketing. Whatever that is.

User avatar
Dr. BUGMAN
Posts: 1526
Joined: Wed Sep 17, 2008 11:18 am
Now Playing: Poverty

Re: The billion-dollar bat Returns

Post by Dr. BUGMAN »

The next villain should be Baby Doll, imo.

Rob-Bert
Posts: 849
Joined: Sun Mar 04, 2007 12:52 pm
Location: Here, not there.
Contact:

Re: The billion-dollar bat Returns

Post by Rob-Bert »

If they don't want to use a new Joker, I say they just take Zeta's idea have Harley Quinn be his replacement. I sure as hell wanna see her Nolanverse look at any rate.

User avatar
M.C.Dillinger
Posts: 240
Joined: Sat Jun 03, 2006 1:47 pm
Now Playing: Persona 4 Golden/Megaman Maverick Hunter X/TF2
Location: Master Tails Doll comes from a place where such things are meaningless
Contact:

Re: The billion-dollar bat Returns

Post by M.C.Dillinger »

Rob-Bert wrote:If they don't want to use a new Joker, I say they just take Zeta's idea have Harley Quinn be his replacement. I sure as hell wanna see her Nolanverse look at any rate.
If they did I doubt she would very much for her original design for the animated series.

User avatar
Pepperidge
Drano Master
Posts: 544
Joined: Fri May 21, 2004 5:01 pm
Location: British Columbia
Contact:

Re: The billion-dollar bat Returns

Post by Pepperidge »

Wombatwarlord777 wrote:That's the risk you take in sequels, I guess. Rather than trying to top Black Knight, I'd be pleased if this movie stood really well by itself.
I don't think that topping Black Knight is going to be very difficult.

User avatar
Protodude
Posts: 960
Joined: Tue Jun 01, 2004 10:27 pm
Location: Houston, Texas
Contact:

Re: The billion-dollar bat Returns

Post by Protodude »

I know he's not exactly well liked, but I think Hush might be a villain that could sort of work in the "nolanverse" if they did him right.

User avatar
Majestic Joey
Posts: 512
Joined: Mon Oct 10, 2005 3:30 pm

Re: The billion-dollar bat Returns

Post by Majestic Joey »

The Riddler is COOL!

I also think they could make the ventriloquist really dark and demented if they wanted to. I always thought he was an interesting villain.

User avatar
Zeta
Posts: 4444
Joined: Wed May 26, 2004 11:06 am
Contact:

Re: The billion-dollar bat Returns

Post by Zeta »

I am a bit surprised they haven't gone down the same route as Spiderman with name dropping. I would have thought Bullock and Montoya were going to be mentioned during the bits in the police station. But that's just me.
Actually, Montoya was originally supposed to be Gordon's traitor, Ramirez, until they realized that making a popular lesbian hispanic hero from the comics into the token traitor would be a really bad move.

Ventriloquist would work OK. They're just running low on the more realistic Batman villains. That are actually interesting, anyways.

User avatar
Senbei
Posts: 800
Joined: Sat Oct 01, 2005 6:45 pm
Now Playing: Art school...
Location: Art school!
Contact:

Post by Senbei »

I never read that Harley Quinn solo series, but it seems like most of her charm comes from repartee with Joker or Ivy so it's hard to imagine her as a good full-fledged villain. More Joker really does seem like the logical course of action, but I can't see them doing anything that wouldn't be repetitious. I'd love to see some Scarface, Clayface, or Freeze, especially Freeze, but even ignoring the realistic tone of the movies they can't improve on what the animated series has done with those characters.

There was too much build up for Two-Face for them to dismiss him so quickly, so my bets are on him.

Post Reply