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So Sega has retrademarked Sonic Shuffle

http://gonintendo.com/?p=66507

That DOESN'T mean that they'll be rereleasing it BUUUUUUUT - well, Sega has been port happy on the wii with the better parts of thier Dreamcast library as of late.

Plus, it's obvious that if they do go this route then this is a kind of weak attempt to try and cash into the 'Wii party game' schtick (with which Shuffle WOULD fit). It's the only console Sonic game of the modern era that hasn't been ported or referenced anywhere else.

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Honestly, when you compare Shuffle to Mario Party (both were made by the same company - Hudson) MP beats it by a country mile. The problem is - MP has drifted off into mediocrity too. Shuffle was done when party games were early and stil the rage, so the cheating AI system was unbearable and just made the game not fun at all. The ONLY way this would be tolerable is if some new modes were added and the NOTORIOUS cheating mechanisms were done away with. I could see them porting this and adding some of the post Sonic Adventure 2 characters for a broader experience (Shadow, Blaze, Silver, etc etc etc) but would Sega really go through all that trouble of fixing the game just for Sonic Shuffle?

In their favor, they did do an "updated" port of Samba de Amigo quite recently and tried to revive NiGHTs to some extent. Buuuuuuuuuuut...

well....this IS Sega after all. =\

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Related: I really do wish that Nintendo would release a "Mario Party Collection" featuring all the boards and minigames in the series. That would actually be worth a purchase.

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That would be kind of tough to do, considering how there's now eight of them, each with 5-6 boards, 50-80 minigames and varying rule sets.

I'd rather they have one new board for each already-existing theme, all the minigames from just the first three Parties, and the ability to customize all the rules to your liking (e.g. whether you want to use Items, Orbs or certain types of spaces or events).

The one thing I did like from Shuffle was the use of cards instead of dice. If they made a Mario Party using what I described above in addition to a card system a la Shuffle, I'd put it above all of them.

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Shuffle is bullshit (even more so) without the VMU screen. I honestly can't believe a little LCD screen in the controller didn't catch on even with the Dreamcast doing as mediocre as it did.

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I got Sonic Shuffle along with Sonic Adventure when I brought my Dreamcast... And I will say one thing for it. Unlike Mario Party, in which nearly everything on the boards are decided by chance, the use of cards made Sonic Shuffle much more strategy based, meaning that the game could probably be a lot of fun with experienced players who both knew the boards and how to use their supply of cards wisely. Of course, the more luck-based thrills of Mario Party probably appeal more to beginners. But I personally liked to have at least some degree of control when moving through the board.

I always thought that they would rerelease Sonic Shuffle, but that it would be in some Sonic compilation (is the Wii powerful enough to port multiple Dreamcast games on one disk?). Now that you mention it, doing it through a Wii channel would probably be the ideal way to do it.

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Wombatwarlord777 wrote:(is the Wii powerful enough to port multiple Dreamcast games on one disk?)
That question makes no sense. Do you mean whether or not several Dreamcast games can fit on one Wii disc? Well, the Wii uses standard DVDs, which hold over four times the amount of data a Dreamcast GD-ROM did, so.

That figure is blown to double if you consider a dual-layer disc, which means you could probably get away with putting nine Dreamcast discs on a single Wii disc.

Now I want Shenmue I&II for the Wii.

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I actually enjoyed SS back in the day, but I think that was because I had a couple friends to play against all the time. I went back a bit ago and played it again.

…Yeah.

Wouldn't be totally against seeing it again, though.

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No.

No...

Nooooooooooooooooooo!!!

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Never played it due to the horrid loading times when my friend showed it to me. And I'm the kinda guy who actually thought the Party Mode of SatSR was passable.

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Yeah, wasn't Secret Rings kind of also Sonic Shuffle 2?

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Pretty much, but at least you weren't forced to play them to continue onward through the game.

This is the worst Sonic-related thing I've heard since Shadow the Hedgehog.

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...That reminds me--why haven't any of the first three Mario Parties been released on the Virtual Console?

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If you've played one, you've played them all?

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Detracting sales from the Wii version?

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Are they gonna make any more of those? 8's been out for a while now, and I was actually looking forward to the potential a Mario Party built from the ground up for Wii could have…

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G.Silver wrote:Detracting sales from the Wii version?
8 sold over 2 million copies worldwide. I don't think sales has anything to do with it. They're probably holding out for a DS port or something.

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That question makes no sense. Do you mean whether or not several Dreamcast games can fit on one Wii disc? Well, the Wii uses standard DVDs, which hold over four times the amount of data a Dreamcast GD-ROM did, so.

That figure is blown to double if you consider a dual-layer disc, which means you could probably get away with putting nine Dreamcast discs on a single Wii disc.

Now I want Shenmue I&II for the Wii.
See, now a new Sonic compilation that included the DreamCast games is something I might actually be into. I would totally shell out 50 bucks for Sonic the Hedgehog 1, 2, 3, Knuckles, 3 & Knuckles, 3D Blast, Spinball, Mean Bean Machine, CD, Fighters, R, the GameGear games, Adventure 1 & 2, and Shuffle all in one game disc. And if they wanted to toss in Chaotix and SegaSonic, that would seal the deal for me.

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The thing is, why would they go and do that? You can already get all that on the Gamecube (and thus on the Wii), sans Shuffle.

To me, for a new Sonic compilation to be worth getting, it'd have to include Chaotix, Segasonic, a proper rendition of Sonic CD (Mega CD emulation would probably be the best bet) with both soundtracks available, Sonic 3D (Saturn version), Shuffle with shorter loading times, Pocket Adventure, and possibly even as far as the Sonic World from Jam and the old cellphone games. All the rest I already own. Several times.

What are the odds of that ever happening, though?

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Sonic Shuffle literally gave me nightmares. It was a miracle I even managed to beat it once. I could see them re-releasing it for the Wii though.

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Oompa Star wrote:Sonic Shuffle literally gave me nightmares.
It was the final minigame, wasn't it? Monster Void ranks up there with FF8's Propagators and Eastern Mind's cello face on my list of Scariest Game Creatures Ever. It's all in the jaundiced eyes.

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See, now I really want to know what monster void looks like, but not nearly enough to actually play Shuffle. Anyone have an image?

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Locit wrote:See, now I really want to know what monster void looks like, but not nearly enough to actually play Shuffle. Anyone have an image?
Image

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Alternately, you could do a quick youtube search.

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Locit wrote:See, now I really want to know what monster void looks like, but not nearly enough to actually play Shuffle. Anyone have an image?
I really wish I could find one! This video is as good as it gets- it doesn't really do him justice, and looking back at it, it doesn't seem all that scary and I guess I was just a pussy back then. But, man, those eyes. His face is practically a carbon copy of that 100-eyed nipple image from the Boobies! topic. (Anyone still have that that?)

And I've got to come clean with you guys: I've never even played the game with another person, and I still thought Shuffle was a pretty competent game. The visuals and overall presentation were stylish, and the gameplay was, well... Competent! Even when sized up against Mario Party. After all these years, I'm confident that if I played the game today, I'd still manage to eke some enjoyment out of it.

Also, WB's image looked like a massive gaping vagina at first glance. It's probably a better representation of Monster Void than the video itself.

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WB wrote:Image
JESUS CHRIST

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