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Wut's dat?

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New characters are always good, but three Kirby characters? Now it's got the second biggest character representation (so far) and remember, last time it was just plain old Kirby. Anyone else feel Sakurai was making a big push for this?

And stop overreacting about stages. There's probably only a few you'll ever play a lot anyway.

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Yeah, stop pimping your own series. If Gooey or Chuchu or whatever show up too, I'll be pretty annoyed. -_-;; I do like Dedede, but with this and Meta-Knight's uberness, it's a bit over the top.

Now where the fuck are Ridley, Starfy, and Olimar?!
Now it's got the second biggest character representation (so far) and remember, last time it was just plain old Kirby. Anyone else feel Sakurai was making a big push for this?
If all the Pokemon characters return from the last game, both Pokemon and Mario'll beat Kirby, at least. And tie with Zelda, since Gannondorf is supposed to be returning.

Still, it's a bit odd to have the representation be Mario > Pokemon > Zelda/Kirby.

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You guys can take consolation in knowing that Dedede is probably the last of the Kirby characters. After these guys, everyone else is either minor, a grunt, an assistant character, or too weird to work as a playable character.

If it makes you feel better, there probably won't be any more Ice Climbers characters.


But now I demand Balloon Fight Guy.

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I have no idea why everyone on GameFaqs is demanding K.Rool. He's the poor man's Bowser and his only power is throwing his fucking crown.

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They're probably adding two Kirby characters now to compensate for the fact that they didn't add any in Melee. Zelda got three more, Pokemon got two more... even Star Fox got one more. But Kirby got nothing.

Which is surprising, in hindsight! I mean, isn't Kirby Nintendo's fourth biggest character franchise? What's more popular outside of Mario, Pokemon or Zelda? Certainly not Star Fox or Metroid... not in sales anyhow. Maybe Donkey Kong, if you count it as being separate from Mario, but even then I'm not sure. Kirby rakes in a lot of dough. Squeak Squad alone sold more than 1.7 million units.

Anyhow, I'm not like a super fan of Deedee or something, but I do think the Kirby franchise 'deserves' three characters if we're just talking about relative popularity. And even compared to the old Melee roster, Kirby is still behind Zelda's four, Pokemon's four, and Mario's six (seven with DK). With Braw either definitely or probably upping the number of characters from those three franchises even further, I don't think Kirby's three is too out of place.
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Zeta wrote:I have no idea why everyone on GameFaqs is demanding K.Rool. He's the poor man's Bowser and his only power is throwing his fucking crown.
He can also fall down.

Honestly, we have enough representation from the Donkey Kong series. By all rights, he should be considered a Mario character (same with Yoshi and Wario), but he's lucky enough to get his own icon, his own stages, and his own monkey bitch. I'm pretty thankful that Yoshi's cast is made up almost entirely of characters that also appear in the Mario series (and we don't need Baby Bowser in Brawl).





But if they added Cranky Kong, I wouldn't mind. Also, Balloon Fight Guy.

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True dat. I wouldn't mind seeing another Wario Ware character, though - since there are so many and they're really unique and interesting. As I said before, Ashley n' Red would be pretty awesome playable characters, although Mona is probably more likely since she's supposed to be Wario's love interest.

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I'm rather glad that Dedede made it in the game. For a second I thought that Nintendo had completely forgotten about him.
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Zeta wrote:I have no idea why everyone on GameFaqs is demanding K.Rool. He's the poor man's Bowser and his only power is throwing his fucking crown.
He can also fall down.
The only way I could see K. Rool being in the game at all if he were in his Kaptain get-up from DKC2. Everything else was pretty lame.

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If you look closely, they've also shown one of Kirby's new transformations--Dedede Kirby.

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Dedede was originally planned for the first game, anyway.

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What kept him from being in the second?

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Perhaps time constraints?

I think it is nice that the Kirby universe is getting more love. Dedede has always been the main villian in most of the Kirby games, so I think it's only fair he gets in on the action too.

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Maybe he was taking a massive shit?

That's what I say when I miss some important, transcendental event.
Plus, it makes so much sense in a place called "PuPuPuLand".

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I stumbled upon this while browsing another board.

So, what do you all think?

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Post by Isuka »

... Assist Trophy, perhaps?

But thanks to the delay, Sakurai sure must be falling short of stuff to comment on the site until the game is finally released, so...

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Goddamn furries. Keep your creepy fucking pornographic Mary Sue fanservice out of my Smash Bros!

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Post by Yami CJMErl »

Just as long as they confirm Falco's reappearance, I don't really think we NEED Krystal--maybe as an Assist Trophy, like Isuka said, but it'd be REALLY unfair if StarFox got three playable characters, Metroid only got one (technically two, but they're both in one being), and F-Zero has YET to show anything save for a measly Assist Trophy.

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You know what would be hilarious? If there's F-Zero elements in the game, and even an F-Zero stage, but Captain Falcon is nowhere to be seen. I'd laugh so hard. Then I'd whine.

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Zeta wrote:Goddamn furries. Keep your creepy fucking pornographic Mary Sue fanservice out of my Smash Bros!
Second'd.

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You know what would be hilarious? If there's F-Zero elements in the game, and even an F-Zero stage, but Captain Falcon is nowhere to be seen. I'd laugh so hard. Then I'd whine.
I really think the only characters from the last couple games in risk of not returning are Roy, Pichu, and Dr. Mario.

King Dedede has some really cool moves. Especially throwing out minions. That's sort of how I imagine Captain Olimar should play. Up Move - Yellow Pikmin that lets him glide while being electrified, down move a slam using a Purple Pikmin, Forward move Blue Pikmin that spits out water, and standard move is being able to toss out a bunch of Red Pikmin that home in on enemies and try to beat them up or carry them off stage. And Final Smash would of course be an army of 100 Pikmin swarming over the screen.
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Dr. Mario is a clone, but he's the best clone ever.

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Considering Mario's tweaks, he actually wouldn't be much of a clone character if they changed the Doctor's cape into a giant hypodermic needle or something. With Mario's Tornado being changed to FLUDD, they'd play pretty differently.

Misc Crap:
* Pikachu has been significantly powered up. Thunder does as much damage as it did in Smash Bros 1.
* Fox has been depowered slightly - his lasers don't reach as far and his up smash attack does less damage.
* Sonic's other move is a whirlwind punch.
* Link's bomb's do much more damage, and overall he's been powered up.
* Ike's other moves are a quick Kurowsawa-like dash that has him dash forward a great distance while cutting through foes, similar to Fox's Fox Illusion. His Down B is Counter, and his Final Smash is a very powered-up Aether.
* Mario Tornado is now a regular move activated by attacking + down while in mid-air.

Also, I found the polls for requested characters for Brawl, in order:
Sonic the Hedgehog Confirmed
King Dedede Confirmed
Diddy Kong Confirmed
Geno
Ike Confirmed
Ridley
Captain Olimar
Krystal
Takamaru
Cel-Shaded Link
Animal Crosser
Claus
DeMile
Isaac
Jeff
Prof. Kawashima
K. Rool
Lip
Lucas Confirmed
Mega Man
Oguma
Ouendan
Sukapon
I suspect the final characters to be revealed will be Ridley, Captain Olimar, Krystal (ugh, but we do need more girls), and Mega Man.

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Isn't this a bit too much? I mean, how many fighters can you put into it and keep balanced and interesting at the same time? We don't need this being Mortal Kombat or that DBZ game with over 100 fighters. Unless a lot of these characters are just colour swaps of existing ones, I'd rather not keep on playing that same simple N64 game with limited moves.

The only ones on that request list that don't suck/are actually known are Sonic and Megaman.

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