Kurenai

Post by **Green Gibbon!** » Tue Jul 06, 2004 9:32 pm

I realize it's kind of a long shot... the only good Tenchu game was the first one, and From Software have an astoundingly mediocre history. But still, I would say that Tenchu Kurenai is looking nice.

For the first time ever, the graphics don't look like the winning project in an origami class. Plus, while most of the footage that's been released is cutscene, the animation, at least, is much smoother. If they can smooth out the actual in-game animation and control so it doesn't look and feel like you're playing Lego ninja, even if that's the only major improvement in the whole game, it will be the saving grace I've been praying for since Tenchu 1.

Plus, Ayame is now super hot.

From Software is often misleading like this, though. Their games are absolutely beautiful, especially when dealing with traditional Japanese imagery and mythology, which seems to be their forte, but despite the eye candy they always end up sucking.

But it's Tenchu, I still consider the original the best ninja game ever made, and this might be the first significant improvement the series has ever had. So all I'm saying is, wouldn't it be great if Tenchu Kurenai turned out to be as cool as it looks, even though I know it won't?

aso · Post by **aso** » Tue Jul 06, 2004 10:29 pm

Wait. From Software... aren't these the guys responsible for the Echo Night series?

I also know they were behind Kuon, but that looks all too much like a Fatal Frame ripoff from the outset.

Post by **Green Gibbon!** » Tue Jul 06, 2004 10:43 pm

Yeah. They also did the Armored Core games, Lost Kingdom 1 and 2, Evergrace, Otogi, etc. There isn't an especially good game in their entire repertoire.

aso · Post by **aso** » Tue Jul 06, 2004 10:51 pm

Thought I'd heard of them.

In its defense, the first Echo Night isn't half bad - sure, controls are a bit clunky, puzzles are typically frustrating as hell (but with solutions obvious enough to make it painful) and the voice acting blows. But it's something different as far as horror games go, and the story ain't bad (not something I can say for some of their other titles, but eh).

WhoopA · Post by **WhoopA** » Tue Jul 06, 2004 11:43 pm

Armored Core was good...

...and then the sequels killed it.

Post by **G.Silver** » Wed Jul 07, 2004 3:45 am

Yeah. They also did the Armored Core games, Lost Kingdom 1 and 2, Evergrace, Otogi, etc. There isn't an especially good game in their entire repertoire.

Don't forget Murakumo.

Armored Core was good... ...and then the sequels killed it.

I never liked the original Armored Core. Recently I picked up one of the newer ones, thinking that I might have decided to warm up to it, or something, but it still felt as dull (yet maddeningly difficult) and un-fun as before.

Post by **Green Gibbon!** » Wed Jul 07, 2004 8:17 am

But Ayame is oh my god fine, now.

BlazeHedgehog · Post by **BlazeHedgehog** » Wed Jul 07, 2004 8:05 pm

I dunno. I've heard some really good things about Otogi, and the concept certainly piques my interest (hey, let's vaniquish demons and obliterate the landscape at the <i>same time!</i>)

Post by **Popcorn** » Wed Jul 07, 2004 8:24 pm

Someone better post a picture of Ayame.

Otogi sucks. It's like a hugely devolved Ninja Gaiden, and it's really, really, really boring and repetitive.

plasticwingsband · Post by **plasticwingsband** » Wed Jul 07, 2004 8:49 pm

EDIT: Better?

Post by **Segaholic2** » Wed Jul 07, 2004 8:53 pm

How about a new one?

Post by **Green Gibbon!** » Wed Jul 07, 2004 8:54 pm

That's not the new Ayame, that's the hideous Tenchu 2 Ayame.

Post by **G.Silver** » Thu Jul 08, 2004 2:41 am

http://xboxmedia.ign.com/xbox/image/ten ... 03_001.jpg

This it?

Post by **Green Gibbon!** » Thu Jul 08, 2004 8:20 am

This it?

I think that's also from Tenchu 2, but she's in her outfit from Tenchu 1. Plus, she's looking a bit chunky, there.

The one wingsband reposted is the new one (with apologizes to Tenchu.de for wasting their bandwidth:

<img src="http://www.tenchu.de/images/kurenai/gallery/56b.jpg">

She looks like a grape-flavored ninja lollipop...

Post by **Popcorn** » Thu Jul 08, 2004 9:56 am

She's got odd shoes.

Post by **G.Silver** » Thu Jul 08, 2004 12:41 pm

What the hell! Did PlasticWingsBand edit his post? It looked like you had just said that wasn't the new one, which confused me, because she was lookin' pretty hot after all.

Post by **Delphine** » Thu Jul 08, 2004 12:44 pm

plasticwingsband wrote:EDIT: Better?

Looks like an edit to me.

plasticwingsband · Post by **plasticwingsband** » Thu Jul 08, 2004 1:16 pm

I edited it alright.

Neo Yi · Post by **Neo Yi** » Thu Jul 08, 2004 9:12 pm

another Tenchu game eh? I only played the first one, it was pretty good, though the cheesy dialogues and acting made me laugh more then I should.
~Neo

Post by **Esrever** » Thu Jul 08, 2004 10:52 pm

Delphine wrote:
plasticwingsband wrote:EDIT: Better?
Looks like an edit to me.

My first clue was the phrase: "Last edited by plasticwingsband on Thu Jul 08, 2004 3:09 am; edited 1 time in total"

Post by **Delphine** » Thu Jul 08, 2004 11:20 pm

Yes, but was it edited?

Post by **Esrever** » Thu Jul 08, 2004 11:29 pm

Post by **Delphine** » Thu Jul 08, 2004 11:33 pm

THAT DOESN'T ANSWER MY QUESTION!

Post by **Green Gibbon!** » Fri Jul 09, 2004 8:04 am

it was pretty good, though the cheesy dialogues and acting made me laugh more then I should.

The acting in the US version was some of the worst ever. I like to think the original Japanese dialogue was better. There's actually a cheat to use the original dialogue, but I think you have to have beaten the game to activate it.

Either way, the deeper into the game you got, the less realistic it became. I kind of started losing interest around the undead stage, which I think was level 6 or 7.

Neo Yi · Post by **Neo Yi** » Fri Jul 09, 2004 8:56 am

There's a cheat code for that? Huh...I guess I best check it out in gamefaqs to better confirm it and play the game sometime...

Either way, the deeper into the game you got, the less realistic it became. I kind of started losing interest around the undead stage, which I think was level 6 or 7.

For what it's worth, level 8 is pretty normal. You climb a mountain to get a flower.
~Neo