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Not sure where this came from, but you can hear the full Angel Island remix in this You Tube video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1v-Jy3OqP1E
It turns out my whole observation about the song combining elements of the act 1 and act 2 versions has a very simple explanation... the song just plays each version, all the way through, one after the other.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1v-Jy3OqP1E
It turns out my whole observation about the song combining elements of the act 1 and act 2 versions has a very simple explanation... the song just plays each version, all the way through, one after the other.
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Wow, thanks for the link!
I like Senoue's guitar-heavy remixes of older songs - like the third part of Windy Valley.
I'd still prefer if he'd finally get around to finishing his second Crush 40 album.
I like Senoue's guitar-heavy remixes of older songs - like the third part of Windy Valley.
I'd still prefer if he'd finally get around to finishing his second Crush 40 album.
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Brilliant. Love that slap bass!
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You can download the full version of the song as well as the rest of the bonus tracks in True Blue over here.
"Sonic X Theme" is also apparently the US version, which I've never heard (only heard Sonic Drive and UK's Sonic X Sonic X Sonic Sonic X nonsense).
"Sonic X Theme" is also apparently the US version, which I've never heard (only heard Sonic Drive and UK's Sonic X Sonic X Sonic Sonic X nonsense).
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It's something along the lines of "GOTTA GO FAST, GOTTA GO FAST, GOTTA GO FASTER FASTER FASTERFASTERFASTER SONIC X". It's about as catchy as it sounds.
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=DEsrever wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1v-Jy3OqP1E
It's quite sad, however, that Jun thought the 4KIDS Sonic X theme would be good enough to warrant release on ANY CD, ANYWHERE.
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I got nervous at the processed power chords at the beginning that the whole thing would eventually ramp up into a parallel-6th-counterpointed, double-time bridge. Mind you, that's exactly what happened, but everything in between was so spot-on awesome, I forgot that the reason that I forgive Sunoue for being such a cock rocker is because he's also an ace pop songwriter/producer as well.
I didn't think I'd totally agree with this statement because of how ugly-guitar-heavy everything past SA2 has tended to get, but I also forget how the Genesis' sound card handicapped the original scores and robbed them of their organic qualities until I heard this. SA1 was a good synth/rock/pop mix, the closest to doing full justice to the series. I'd love to see a cover album, and it makes me sad such a concept exists in the form of the Bioware RPG soundtrack, but on the DS, which is similarly (albeit not as much) limited.Simmerl wrote:I like Senoue's guitar-heavy remixes of older songs
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Criminy, that Angel Island run makes my approach look woefully inadequate by comparison. Timing the end of act 1 with the music change was pretty slick as well.
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What the fuck is everyone going on about Geno for? It's really starting to annoy me. He was a minor character in one out of FOUR Mario RPGs. Bowser did everything he could do but better, and he had no personality whatsoever. What the hell is the deal? Why would he be anymore likely to be playable than Bow or Kooper or any other minor Mario RPG sidekick.
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Huh?... who said anything about Geno in the last two pages? Though Ritz explained what's probably the cool thing about him, I thought we were past it by now.
Babel Fish plzDackAttac wrote:I got nervous at the processed power chords at the beginning that the whole thing would eventually ramp up into a parallel-6th-counterpointed, double-time bridge.
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What, parallel 6th counterpoint? I don't think there's a layman's term for it, but basically whenever you can hear two guitars playing simultaneously, (Live & Learn, E.G.G.M.A.N. & Believe in Myself SA1's solos all spring immediately to mind). And, like, I said, it's what he does at the bridge. Since the lack of a commonplace label is now bugging me, I think I'll just go ahead and call it "Cheese Metal Maneuver #5."
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The starting roster of the 21 characters on the dojo minus Sonic and Snake was confirmed by another source. This again, probably means as I said earlier 14-19 unlockables. Seems like a lot until you realize most of that is unlockables from earlier in the series, though. No doubt Captain Falcon, Ness, Luigi, Jigglypuff, Ganondorf, Falco, Mr. Game and Watch, and Marth will all return. Only really leaving room for 6-11 NEW unlockable characters. And we know three of those will be Snake, Sonic, and Lucario. So really only 3-9 characters we don't know about.
So that video IS legit.
I was trying to think, earlier, if every series could have at least four characters eventually (say for Smash Bros 4 ten years from now), would there be enough important characters for each series to go around? Or at least most of them? Excepting of course, Mario, Zelda, and Pokemon which already have plenty . . .
Donkey Kong: Donkey Kong, Diddy Kong, Dixie Kong, K. Rool.
F-Zero: Captain Falcon, Black Shadow, Jody Summer, Samurai Goroh
Mother: Ness, Lucas, Claus as Masked Man, Paula
Fire Emblem: Tons and tons to choose from. I don't know enough to pick out the three major ones besides Marth
Kid Icarus: Pit, Eggplant Wizard, Medusa
Metroid: Samus, Ridley, Weavel, Dark Samus
Metal Gear: Snake and Raiden. Don't know enough to suggest two more, but I'm sure there are enough to fill in stuff.
Sonic: Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Dr. Eggman
Star Fox: Fox, Falco, Krystal, Wolf
Yoshi: Yoshi, Baby Bowser, Baby Mario Bros, Poochy
Kirby: Kirby, King Dedede, Gooey, Meta-Knight
Wario: Wario, Mona, Captain Syrup, Jimmy T.
At their limits: Game and Watch, Ice Climbers, Pikmin and Olimar, are pretty much the only playable characters you could get from their respective games.
As you can see, surprisingly, each franchise has at least two or three more characters which are important enough to be comfortably added to a fourth game roster.
Hrm . . . there's still a lot of room for expansion if they decided to do a fourth one just from existing franchises. Not to mention characters from unused franchies like Punch-Out, Legend of Starfy, Golden Sun, Advance Wars, Custom Robo, StarTropics, Panel de Pon, Joy Mech Fight, Nazo no Muramase-jo, and - the main characters of each series would make good player characters.
I am hoping for some of the following stages:
Mother Series:
Magicant - The strangest part of a strange franchise. Magicant is the psychic dreamworld Ness and Nintend visit in the first game. It has winged bird-men, kids wandering around naked, and phones growing out of the ground. And everything's colored in swirling pastels. It could be a very visually impressive stage. It's certainly one of the most memorable sections of the games in the franchise.
Donkey Kong Series:
Construction Site - A recreation of the original classic Donkey Kong level. If this isn't in the game, at least you'll be able to make one in Stage Builder, probably.
Gangplank Galleon - Pirates for the win. Also if KRool isn't playable, he could make cameos here.
Mario Series:
Bowser's Castle and Luigi's Mansion: I really want every character in this game to have their own stage, even if they're multiple characters from the same franchise. Both of these memorable locations are standbys in the Mario spinoffs, and would be easily implemented as stages.
Comet Observatory: Because it's visually interesting and Delfino Plaza and TWO of Peach's Castle made it in.
Sonic:
Green Hill Zone and Casino Night Zone. The two most popular and well-known stages in the franchise. If Casino Night is full of crazy bumpers, neon lights and obstacles, all the better.
Pokemon:
Safari Zone - One of the most recognized locations in the franchise. The Safari Zone has much more interesting potential than any other locations in the Pokemon franchise. It's essentially a wild game preserve for rare Pokemon. Each Safari Zone is usually broken up into several different habitats. What's even better, is that Diamond and Pearl has a train that rides through it, giving ample area for players to fight while moving throughout the area. Frankly, the Pokemon stages have always been seriously boring. Two stadiums, a nonsensical flying balloon stage, and a rather generic skyscraper. The Safari Zone is instantly recognizable to fans of the franchise AND it's interesting with players struggling to keep up with the train's movement while fending off wild Pokemon attacks and eachother.
Kirby Series:
Mt. Dedede - A simple boxing/wrestling ring that the various franchise enemies look upon. Simply entertaining because a boxing ring would be a funny place to have a match. Especially if you could bounce off the ropes if you run into them or are hit towards them.
As far as rumors, I'm sure everyone's heard about Luigi's Mansion and Green Hill being in the game, and I'd be more surprised if they weren't.
I keep on going to Brawl central forums, and every other post is about how "I'll kill everyone in Japan if Geno isn't in this game!"Huh?... who said anything about Geno in the last two pages? Though Ritz explained what's probably the cool thing about him, I thought we were past it by now.
So that video IS legit.
I was trying to think, earlier, if every series could have at least four characters eventually (say for Smash Bros 4 ten years from now), would there be enough important characters for each series to go around? Or at least most of them? Excepting of course, Mario, Zelda, and Pokemon which already have plenty . . .
Donkey Kong: Donkey Kong, Diddy Kong, Dixie Kong, K. Rool.
F-Zero: Captain Falcon, Black Shadow, Jody Summer, Samurai Goroh
Mother: Ness, Lucas, Claus as Masked Man, Paula
Fire Emblem: Tons and tons to choose from. I don't know enough to pick out the three major ones besides Marth
Kid Icarus: Pit, Eggplant Wizard, Medusa
Metroid: Samus, Ridley, Weavel, Dark Samus
Metal Gear: Snake and Raiden. Don't know enough to suggest two more, but I'm sure there are enough to fill in stuff.
Sonic: Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Dr. Eggman
Star Fox: Fox, Falco, Krystal, Wolf
Yoshi: Yoshi, Baby Bowser, Baby Mario Bros, Poochy
Kirby: Kirby, King Dedede, Gooey, Meta-Knight
Wario: Wario, Mona, Captain Syrup, Jimmy T.
At their limits: Game and Watch, Ice Climbers, Pikmin and Olimar, are pretty much the only playable characters you could get from their respective games.
As you can see, surprisingly, each franchise has at least two or three more characters which are important enough to be comfortably added to a fourth game roster.
Hrm . . . there's still a lot of room for expansion if they decided to do a fourth one just from existing franchises. Not to mention characters from unused franchies like Punch-Out, Legend of Starfy, Golden Sun, Advance Wars, Custom Robo, StarTropics, Panel de Pon, Joy Mech Fight, Nazo no Muramase-jo, and - the main characters of each series would make good player characters.
I am hoping for some of the following stages:
Mother Series:
Magicant - The strangest part of a strange franchise. Magicant is the psychic dreamworld Ness and Nintend visit in the first game. It has winged bird-men, kids wandering around naked, and phones growing out of the ground. And everything's colored in swirling pastels. It could be a very visually impressive stage. It's certainly one of the most memorable sections of the games in the franchise.
Donkey Kong Series:
Construction Site - A recreation of the original classic Donkey Kong level. If this isn't in the game, at least you'll be able to make one in Stage Builder, probably.
Gangplank Galleon - Pirates for the win. Also if KRool isn't playable, he could make cameos here.
Mario Series:
Bowser's Castle and Luigi's Mansion: I really want every character in this game to have their own stage, even if they're multiple characters from the same franchise. Both of these memorable locations are standbys in the Mario spinoffs, and would be easily implemented as stages.
Comet Observatory: Because it's visually interesting and Delfino Plaza and TWO of Peach's Castle made it in.
Sonic:
Green Hill Zone and Casino Night Zone. The two most popular and well-known stages in the franchise. If Casino Night is full of crazy bumpers, neon lights and obstacles, all the better.
Pokemon:
Safari Zone - One of the most recognized locations in the franchise. The Safari Zone has much more interesting potential than any other locations in the Pokemon franchise. It's essentially a wild game preserve for rare Pokemon. Each Safari Zone is usually broken up into several different habitats. What's even better, is that Diamond and Pearl has a train that rides through it, giving ample area for players to fight while moving throughout the area. Frankly, the Pokemon stages have always been seriously boring. Two stadiums, a nonsensical flying balloon stage, and a rather generic skyscraper. The Safari Zone is instantly recognizable to fans of the franchise AND it's interesting with players struggling to keep up with the train's movement while fending off wild Pokemon attacks and eachother.
Kirby Series:
Mt. Dedede - A simple boxing/wrestling ring that the various franchise enemies look upon. Simply entertaining because a boxing ring would be a funny place to have a match. Especially if you could bounce off the ropes if you run into them or are hit towards them.
As far as rumors, I'm sure everyone's heard about Luigi's Mansion and Green Hill being in the game, and I'd be more surprised if they weren't.
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Wow, this was unexpected. Brawl just went Gems Collection. Here's hoping the emulation is good (read: full speed in PAL60 mode)
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I'm confused... are ALL the games timed demos, or just some of them?
Either way it's kinda neat.
Either way it's kinda neat.
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I'm betting all the games are demos, because Nintendo wants to milk your virtual console cash supply.
Yeah, what a lame way to take up disc space. If it was the entire games of Super Mario Bros, F-Zero, StarFox, Earthbound, Ice Climbers, Metroid, Legend of Zelda, Kid Icarus, Donkey Kong Country, Game and Watch Collection, Metal Gear, Sonic the Hedgehog, Wario Land, Yoshi's Island, and demos of Pikmin and Fire Emblem - then we'd be talking. But this just strikes me as a clumsy and rather tasteless advertisement.
Yeah, what a lame way to take up disc space. If it was the entire games of Super Mario Bros, F-Zero, StarFox, Earthbound, Ice Climbers, Metroid, Legend of Zelda, Kid Icarus, Donkey Kong Country, Game and Watch Collection, Metal Gear, Sonic the Hedgehog, Wario Land, Yoshi's Island, and demos of Pikmin and Fire Emblem - then we'd be talking. But this just strikes me as a clumsy and rather tasteless advertisement.
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I dunno, dude... I think a collection of all those games would be worth $50 on it's own. Giving them all to you as a free bonus for buying Smash Bros... I think the only thing "we'd be talking" there is the language of outrageous fan expectations.
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I've always found timed demos lame. Especially for games you can emulate in 50 seconds on a PC with less trouble than buying them.
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They are pretty lame. I can't decide if it's better to have the timed demos or just have nothing.
Honestly, where timed demos SHOULD be is in the Virtual Console shop itself, and they should have them for every game in the store!
Honestly, where timed demos SHOULD be is in the Virtual Console shop itself, and they should have them for every game in the store!
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I figure they're more in there for all the 9 year olds who don't yet know how to steal games and also really, really never played any of those earlier games. Also, why Starfox 64 and Super Metroid? Were the originals not masterpieces? I figure Kirby's original game isn't on there because they aren't doing Gameboy games on VC.
Also, the original Starfox on VC with an improved frame rate is something that I would buy without hesitation.
Also, the original Starfox on VC with an improved frame rate is something that I would buy without hesitation.
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I don't think that was a complete list of the games available. Actually, if you go to the Japanese version of the site they list some different titles there. So they may not really be leaving out the games you mentioned.
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When you talk about the "unused franchises" don't forget that (assuming the Dojo isn't wrong) there's still one more guaranteed new franchise we don't know about. *points to filenames for the world icons*Zeta wrote:(Zeta's giant quote about possibilities)
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Thinking about it for a while, giving the top three franchises seven characters each, every other used franchise up to now four characters, and tossing in one from every other franchise only brings you to about 76 characters. Which would possibly be doable by the fourth game in the series if they went all out . . .When you talk about the "unused franchises" don't forget that (assuming the Dojo isn't wrong) there's still one more guaranteed new franchise we don't know about. *points to filenames for the world icons*
Super Mario Bros: Mario, Luigi, Bowser, Peach, Dr. Mario, Bowser Jr., Rosalina
Legend of Zelda: Link, Young Link, Zelda/Sheik, Ganondorf, Tingle, Vaati
Pokemon: Pikachu, Pokemon Trainer, Pichu, Mewtwo, Jigglypuff, Lucario, Meowth
Donkey Kong: Donkey Kong, Diddy Kong, Dixie Kong, King K. Rool.
F-Zero: Captain Falcon, Black Shadow, Jody Summer, Samurai Goroh
Mother: Ness, Paula, Lucas, Claus
Fire Emblem: Marth, Roy, Ike, Michaiah
Kid Icarus: Pit, Eggplant Wizard, Medusa, Palutena
Metroid: Samus, Ridley, Weavel, Dark Samus
Star Fox: Fox, Falco, Krystal, Wolf
Yoshi: Yoshi, Kamek, Baby Mario Bros, Poochy
Kirby: Kirby, King Dedede, Gooey, Meta-Knight
Wario: Wario, Mona, Captain Syrup, Jimmy T.
Game and Watch: Mr. Game and Watch
Pikmin: Captain Olimar
Ice Climber: Ice Climbers
Punch-Out: Little Mac
Legend of Stafy: Stafy
Golden Sun: Isaac
Nintendo Wars: Andy
Custom Robo: Ray
StarTropics: Mike Jones
Panel de Pon: Lip
Joy Mech Fight: Sukapon
Balloon Fight: Balloon Fighter
Mystery of Murasame Castle: Takamaru
Animal Crossing: Tom Nook
Nintendo Hardware: R.O.B., Mii
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Pretty big argument to be made for DLC.
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Japanese Opening
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRBsajRrnY8
Looks like Marth is back, along with Sonic's stage being Green Hill Zone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRBsajRrnY8
Looks like Marth is back, along with Sonic's stage being Green Hill Zone.
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That was kinda cool. Not as cinematic as the last game's intro though.